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Prager

by Prager on 06 November 2010 - 23:11

Darylehred. I am familiar with SWGDOG . It is a forum mainly for  legal purposes.( I have contributed suggestions for consideration there) but that does not mean that they are the only one  or the best  one with the right to make definitions. Also there could be, and usually are, different but proper  definition of the same trait, topic, object,action,...... A lot of it depends on point of view of a person making such definition. Like social, chemical. neurological, philosophical, legal, psychological, political, cultural, ethical, moral, historical, etymological,   and on and on. They  are usually not the same. For example by you presented definition is directed to obedience and my is directed to protection. SWGDOG is a commendable effort,.. but never ending-infinitesimal  effort of defining which is only as good as current scientific knowledge, culture, morals, ethics, political situation......
Also:
Any theory  can make and often needs to  make it's own definitions of terms for purpose of understanding of such theory. You can define a space as a 3 dimensional space, someone else added time to it and I have studied definition of a space as a circle and point in infinity. Definition is not THE Truth. Stagnant  truism. Our understanding can be very different from "you" to me.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 07 November 2010 - 00:11

Beetree,
                I really like Prager Hans, he is trying to keep it
on topic while we are taking a tour through the Guggenheim.

Form follows function, I think Hans has been handed down
the breed and very much would like it to be what it was given
to him, without diluting it. It is a job...no doubt about it.
To give the next generation something they can appreciate.
It is a heritage. 

darylehret

by darylehret on 07 November 2010 - 01:11

Any theory can make and often needs to make it's own definitions of terms for purpose of understanding of such theory. ...blah blah blah...:-)... Definition is not THE Truth.

I think Armin Winkler's compilation of terms in his articles present a nicely cohesive theory that works fairly well from a sporting perspective.  I might include a few things that would compliment it well, but I wouldn't change much, if anything.

But yes, I totally understand, the map is not the territory, and while the models or ethograms of dog behavior we apply aren't necessarily incorrect or entirely useless, they can become cumbersome and interfere with our training effectiveness when they become overly complex.  I'd bet that someone like "rainforestdogs" has little trouble just throwing all these concepts out the window, and paying more attention to the dog in front of him, without overanalyzing the processes that are occuring.

by beetree on 09 November 2010 - 01:11







 


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