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by Louise M. Penery on 15 December 2010 - 21:12
by Louise M. Penery on 15 December 2010 - 21:12
Yes, I can spell are.
by OGBS on 15 December 2010 - 21:12
The answer is, YES!
by Ryanhaus on 16 December 2010 - 02:12
Yes Louise we are,
don't get me started, but, here goes, I must say, as a breeder I vaccinate pups going to new homes with a first booster shot of Distemper/Adeno/Parvo, and I tell my puppy buyers to not get sucked into the Lepto & Corona shots, the Lepto has like 125 different strains and the shot only covers like 5 of them, (Sorry for sounding like a hippie using the "Like word" but it's cool, Oops there I go again!).....And I also tell my puppy buyers that the only Corona you should be having is with a lime in it!
Shame on some vets sucking in the less knowledgeable GSD owners into getting vaccines that are unnecessary, I believe in getting dogs vaccinated, but only the minimum.
Do titers on your dogs, they cost as much as a booster shot, but they let you know if the shot is necessary.
Stay Healthy!!!
don't get me started, but, here goes, I must say, as a breeder I vaccinate pups going to new homes with a first booster shot of Distemper/Adeno/Parvo, and I tell my puppy buyers to not get sucked into the Lepto & Corona shots, the Lepto has like 125 different strains and the shot only covers like 5 of them, (Sorry for sounding like a hippie using the "Like word" but it's cool, Oops there I go again!).....And I also tell my puppy buyers that the only Corona you should be having is with a lime in it!
Shame on some vets sucking in the less knowledgeable GSD owners into getting vaccines that are unnecessary, I believe in getting dogs vaccinated, but only the minimum.
Do titers on your dogs, they cost as much as a booster shot, but they let you know if the shot is necessary.
Stay Healthy!!!
by TingiesandTails on 16 December 2010 - 03:12
absolutely!
Lol, Mirasmom "don't get me started"....I can agree...
a lot of people rely on their vets recommendations and are not getting informed!
I'm seeing a holistic vet, only get what is necessary in my area and do titers.
Additionally, informed choices on nutrition, healthy exercise and overall healthy living are not only important for us humans but also for our pets.
Lol, Mirasmom "don't get me started"....I can agree...
a lot of people rely on their vets recommendations and are not getting informed!
I'm seeing a holistic vet, only get what is necessary in my area and do titers.
Additionally, informed choices on nutrition, healthy exercise and overall healthy living are not only important for us humans but also for our pets.
by Doberdoodle on 16 December 2010 - 04:12
Most definately. Cancer, allergies, immune disorders...
Vaccines must be done like this- A weighed risk analysis. Does an adult dog need a parvo booster, according to my vet, no. Find a vet who is progressive and not "old school." I vaccinate minimally, if at all.
Corona is another one that should not be repeated past puppyhood, and giardia is a vax that is not recommended. Look at AAHA recommendations for what is core vax, and what is not necessary, depending on the dogs lifestyle. For example, a city dog living in a high rise condo does not need a lyme vaccine. A cat living in an apartment on a 4th floor does not need any vaccines. A dog that goes to the woods a lot may benefit from the lyme vaccine, it depends.
Vaccines must be done like this- A weighed risk analysis. Does an adult dog need a parvo booster, according to my vet, no. Find a vet who is progressive and not "old school." I vaccinate minimally, if at all.
Corona is another one that should not be repeated past puppyhood, and giardia is a vax that is not recommended. Look at AAHA recommendations for what is core vax, and what is not necessary, depending on the dogs lifestyle. For example, a city dog living in a high rise condo does not need a lyme vaccine. A cat living in an apartment on a 4th floor does not need any vaccines. A dog that goes to the woods a lot may benefit from the lyme vaccine, it depends.
by Karlos Pedraza on 16 December 2010 - 05:12
i THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO VACCINATE THEM, JUST IN CASE...I DON'T THINK OU WANT TO LOSE YOUR BABY PUPPIES.
by berger77 on 16 December 2010 - 06:12
answer : YES
by nanu on 16 December 2010 - 20:12
Interesting topic. Yes, Corona with a lime please.
I do vaccinate for lepto as our local wildlife ( 4 legged variety) carries lepto.
I vaccinate puppies in 30 day increments then a booster 1 year after the last vaccination THEN mothers who are going to breed, vaccinate a month before that heat cycle for good puppy immunity. No more than that. My puppies 1st vaccination is about 7 1/2 to 8 weeks of age.
I had cancer in some of my GSD's about 20 years ago, changed my vaccination protocol and I must say, none since. I do not know if this is the answer but I know something changed.
Good Luck
Nancy Rhynard
www.westwoodkennels.com
I do vaccinate for lepto as our local wildlife ( 4 legged variety) carries lepto.
I vaccinate puppies in 30 day increments then a booster 1 year after the last vaccination THEN mothers who are going to breed, vaccinate a month before that heat cycle for good puppy immunity. No more than that. My puppies 1st vaccination is about 7 1/2 to 8 weeks of age.
I had cancer in some of my GSD's about 20 years ago, changed my vaccination protocol and I must say, none since. I do not know if this is the answer but I know something changed.
Good Luck
Nancy Rhynard
www.westwoodkennels.com
by Louise M. Penery on 16 December 2010 - 23:12
My dogs have not been vaccinated in years (no polyvalent routine vaccines since they were titled--even then , I used only a parvo/distemper combo). When I had a rabiesr titer run last spring when a 3 year rabies vacccine was due, my dog had 5 times the neccesary antibody level needed to confer immunity.
I recommend Neopar for parvo as it can overcome maternal antibody level: www.neotechvaccines.com/neopar.htm
For those worried about distemper: Neotech has a this new vaccine: NEOTECH Vaccines has released two new vaccines! NEOVAC DA2 (Distemper Adenovirus 2) & NEOVAC D (Distemper).
BTW, I do not worm my dogs for intestinal parasites or have them on heartworm propylaxis---because the don't need it where I live. The 8.5 year-old dog was wormed by the breeder at 6 and 8 weeks. They do not receive Frontline or other flea preventatives--nor fecal exams. Their environment is not trested wih flea products.They eat a raw diet (no kibble) as well--not exactly what a vet would recommend. Their blood work is excellent for geriatric dogs.
The only dogs I've had with cancer, received polyvalent vaccines early in their lives. My old male dog developed vaccinosis after his last rabies vaccine and was dead within a month at the age of 11.5 years.. I know of various dogs (with conscientious owners) who have been innoculated up the wazzoo and who have developed cancer.
When vaccinating any dog, we should be sure that the dog is absolutely healthy, not stressed, free of all diseases, including cancer. I know of many vets who vaccinate dogs when they have to sustain the stress of anthesia for minor procedures,
When my boy recently had a couple of minor surgeries for irritated, benign masses, he received either a local or the reversible Domitor anesthetic (without using the reversal drug)--no gas anesthesia. As he had had a geriatric panel a few months ago, he required no pre-anesthesia bloodwork or IV fluids during surgery. IOW, a very healthy canine with a strong immune system and a very understanding, cooperative veterinarian!! When he was exposed to kennel cough a couple of years ago, he did not develop kennel cough even though he drank from the same bucket as the afftected female dog (bailed out of the shelter at the age of 11). The old girl was purchased from a puppy mill breeder (played veterinarian and used polyvalent vaccines and Ivomec) and was euthanized with hemangiosarcoma at the age of 12. Otherwise, she had no vaccines except rabies since she was a pup, ate a raw diet, and never had a sick day in her life.
I recommend Neopar for parvo as it can overcome maternal antibody level: www.neotechvaccines.com/neopar.htm
For those worried about distemper: Neotech has a this new vaccine: NEOTECH Vaccines has released two new vaccines! NEOVAC DA2 (Distemper Adenovirus 2) & NEOVAC D (Distemper).
BTW, I do not worm my dogs for intestinal parasites or have them on heartworm propylaxis---because the don't need it where I live. The 8.5 year-old dog was wormed by the breeder at 6 and 8 weeks. They do not receive Frontline or other flea preventatives--nor fecal exams. Their environment is not trested wih flea products.They eat a raw diet (no kibble) as well--not exactly what a vet would recommend. Their blood work is excellent for geriatric dogs.
The only dogs I've had with cancer, received polyvalent vaccines early in their lives. My old male dog developed vaccinosis after his last rabies vaccine and was dead within a month at the age of 11.5 years.. I know of various dogs (with conscientious owners) who have been innoculated up the wazzoo and who have developed cancer.
When vaccinating any dog, we should be sure that the dog is absolutely healthy, not stressed, free of all diseases, including cancer. I know of many vets who vaccinate dogs when they have to sustain the stress of anthesia for minor procedures,
When my boy recently had a couple of minor surgeries for irritated, benign masses, he received either a local or the reversible Domitor anesthetic (without using the reversal drug)--no gas anesthesia. As he had had a geriatric panel a few months ago, he required no pre-anesthesia bloodwork or IV fluids during surgery. IOW, a very healthy canine with a strong immune system and a very understanding, cooperative veterinarian!! When he was exposed to kennel cough a couple of years ago, he did not develop kennel cough even though he drank from the same bucket as the afftected female dog (bailed out of the shelter at the age of 11). The old girl was purchased from a puppy mill breeder (played veterinarian and used polyvalent vaccines and Ivomec) and was euthanized with hemangiosarcoma at the age of 12. Otherwise, she had no vaccines except rabies since she was a pup, ate a raw diet, and never had a sick day in her life.
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