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by Prager on 13 January 2011 - 18:01
Also I would like to say this. I do know these dogs and culture of the people who created them. I am one of them and I love this type of dogs and I dedicate them my life and I think that they are great and they are epitome of what GSD should be. And I am here to help to anybody who wants to breed these type of dogs.
I know now at this point you will call me consummate salesman again. To that I'd say:
"I guess you do not get it....."
or better yet :
"What everrrrrr"
Prager Hans
http://www.AlpineK9.com
I know now at this point you will call me consummate salesman again. To that I'd say:
"I guess you do not get it....."
or better yet :
"What everrrrrr"
Prager Hans
http://www.AlpineK9.com
by darylehret on 13 January 2011 - 18:01
I also say that Jinopo dogs are "DDR influenced", but I do not say Jinopo is "just a DDR type breeder".
by darylehret on 13 January 2011 - 18:01
"What everrrrrr"
Did you shake your pigtails, roll your eyes and wrinkle your nose when you said that? ;-) I never called you a consummate salesman, I don't even know what consummate means...
Did you shake your pigtails, roll your eyes and wrinkle your nose when you said that? ;-) I never called you a consummate salesman, I don't even know what consummate means...
by ghostly on 14 January 2011 - 00:01
by Schaferhunden on 14 January 2011 - 02:01
consummate
adjective, verb
Definition: (adj.) 1. perfect and complete in every aspect; 2. having all necessary qualities; (v.) to complete, fulfill, or conclude
Synonyms: (adj.) ideal, supreme, ultimate, gifted, talented, superior, absolute, (v.) complete, fulfill, conclude, culminate, affirm, validate
Antonyms: (adj.) defective, deficient, inadequate, incomplete
Tips: The verb consummate is spelled the same as the adjective consummate but is pronounced differently (short a on the adjective, long on the verb). Use the adjective consummate to describe someone who is perfect or ideal at something. (i.e: "He is the consummate salesman--he always knows the right thing to say to win the sale.") Consummate can also be used to describe something negative. (i.e: "He is a consummate {perfect, skilled, complete} liar.") The verb consummate means "to complete or fulfill." In business, you can consummate a deal over dinner. In relationships, consummate means "to have sex and 'complete' the relationship."
Example,
The consummate sales person was a man, who by himself, outsold 1500 different dog breeders or Kennels. This guy was a tru trailblazer.
by darylehret on 14 January 2011 - 02:01
Well, I suppose if a guy can call other breeders "small potatoes" then he must be consummate in some regard. Either way, he's passionate about his beliefs, probably honest as any man here, and isn't overly much jealous of anyone, as others probably are of him. I, for one, am thankful he shares his thoughts with us about the breed. When I ever disagree with Hans, I don't intend to disrespect him.
by Prager on 14 January 2011 - 22:01
Daryl someone else said that ( Consummate) not you. ( Corleone?)
Here. I do not know if you agreeing with me or just inadvertently making my point.
I also say that Jinopo dogs are "DDR influenced", but I do not say Jinopo is "just a DDR type breeder".
We ( Czechs) do not say that our dogs are "DDR type lines". They are Czech lines which incorporated DDR and WG lines. Off course after all, all GSD comes from Germany. Same as American bred dogs are American lines which incorporate let say, Czech dogs. But they are not Czech lines.
Berating dead horse,...I guess.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
Here. I do not know if you agreeing with me or just inadvertently making my point.
I also say that Jinopo dogs are "DDR influenced", but I do not say Jinopo is "just a DDR type breeder".
We ( Czechs) do not say that our dogs are "DDR type lines". They are Czech lines which incorporated DDR and WG lines. Off course after all, all GSD comes from Germany. Same as American bred dogs are American lines which incorporate let say, Czech dogs. But they are not Czech lines.
Berating dead horse,...I guess.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by Don Corleone on 15 January 2011 - 00:01
No, Hans, not me.
by Prager on 16 January 2011 - 15:01
I have just re-read this thread.
I would like to address the question, why not too many none Czech breeders are breeding to Czech dogs.
One of the reasons why many breeders do not use Old style Czech lines is because these are working lines and sport breeders are looking into and appreciate different qualities. There are some Czechs now who are interested in sport or show and are restructuring "Old style Czech lines" by breeding to out of the country dogs in order to turn them more "sporty" and "showy". I personally believe that this is unfortunate tendency. However the non Czech sport or Show line breeders are not interest to breed into these early creations because they are after all coming from their stock.
However there are also many breeders in other countries who appreciate these Old Style dogs and breed to them for working purposes in Police and elsewhere.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
I would like to address the question, why not too many none Czech breeders are breeding to Czech dogs.
One of the reasons why many breeders do not use Old style Czech lines is because these are working lines and sport breeders are looking into and appreciate different qualities. There are some Czechs now who are interested in sport or show and are restructuring "Old style Czech lines" by breeding to out of the country dogs in order to turn them more "sporty" and "showy". I personally believe that this is unfortunate tendency. However the non Czech sport or Show line breeders are not interest to breed into these early creations because they are after all coming from their stock.
However there are also many breeders in other countries who appreciate these Old Style dogs and breed to them for working purposes in Police and elsewhere.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by darylehret on 16 January 2011 - 16:01
"Old style Czech lines" by breeding to out of the country dogs in order to turn them more "sporty" and "showy". I personally believe that this is unfortunate tendency.
I don't think so. I've take more than a few of the "old style" bred dogs to the local schutzhund club to find that, a west/czech cross was often a lot more enjoyable for dog and handler on the field. I personally felt a stronger "team presence" being accompanied by a dog that has a genuine interest in engaging those exercises with a positive enthusiasm. The protection sports do a lot to support the presence of your old style czech dogs, so it's nice to give something back, if you can stand the idea of intermingling the best that two distinct populations have to offer each other.
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