Help With Shipping? - Page 1

Hi,

I'm looking for some help with shipping our dogs back to the UK from Malaysia;

We have got all the blood tests, rabies vaccinations etc done so all is fine on that front, but we're having some trouble arranging the actual flight.

There is only one airline licensed to carry the dogs into the UK, however when we were speaking to an agent who is supposed to be helping us with the flight he said that our 2 male German Shepherds are too big to be taken on a commercial flight and have to be flown via cargo (ie not with us)? Is this correct / possible? He told us to just measure their height and apparently there are too big, but I have never heard of anything like this before?

But most likely he is mistaken, so we are trying to call the airline to find out about their recommendations for the crate size but we haven't had much luck so far.

So, can anyone please advise on the crate size needed for fairly large, male German Shepherds? It would be most appreciated.


And also, we are still researching this but is there anything else we need to get for them on the flight? Ie, how is food / water handled? Do we also need to put in some sort of absorbant material in the crate?


So, thanks in advance and if you have any info / recommendations at all for the flight / procedure please let me know as we'd like to make the journey as easy and comfortable as possible for our guys (afterall it is a 13 hour flight!)

 Gradlyn Kennels
 G.K. Airfreight Service GmbH
  Cargo City Nord, Bldg 458
 60549 Frankfurt - Airport
 www.gkair.de
 www.petshipping.com
 Phone: +49 (69) 69 71 254-0
 Fax:   +49 (69) 69 71 254-25
 

No dogs can be flown in to the UK as excess baggage, they must go cargo.  But they can be on the same plane if the plane is big enough, probably needs to be a 747 or 777.

You will probably need Varikennel 700s, the UK has very strict rules, One of my males had to fly in a 700 with a 3 inch extension so the crate was 3" over his ears.

As far as water, I find the best are the stainless steel buckets with one flat side, then use a double ended snap to attach to the crate, I fill them with water and freeze them the night before the flight, this means the dogs have water for several hours.

I use newspaper or packing paper for the bottom of the crates.

I haven't added food for any flight under 24 hours, but you can put some in a ziploc and tape it to the crate with instructions.

Another option which I have used is to fly the dogs with you in Varikennel 500s to Frankfurt as excess baggage, then drive to the UK, depending on timing you might need to get the tick and tapeworm treatment done in France before you go through the tunnel.  This works out to be about half the price of cargo straight in to the UK, but takes a lot of organizing.

Good luck,

- Louise Jollyman -
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try delta airlines that is one who normal take GSD I fly with them always excess bagage

I THINK THE BEST IS, IF THIS MAN FROM MALASYA BUYING TICKET FOR HIM, AND BRING DOGS IN UK WITH HIM, THEN DPGS ARRIVE LIKE TO  BAGGAGE AND HE WILL PAY FROM 75-200E FOR DOG WEIGHT TO 75KG INCLUDED CAGE.
(75-200 THIS IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN COMPANIES....)
AND SHIPPING HAVE MUCH BETTER PRICE.

OUR AGENCY BRINGS DOGS FROM SERBIA TO EVERY AIRPORT IN THE WORLD.DOGS ARRIVING WITH AGENT.

WWW.VOMHAUSENADJA.COM

No one can fly dogs in to the UK as excess baggage.

Louise

Thanks everyone for the advise, especially Louise - it was very helpful.

I just have a few more questions, and it would be great if you could also help with those:

-You mentioned using the Varikennel 700 if flying straight to the UK, but Varikennel 500 if flying to Frankfurt then driving in, how come? Is this just due to the airline legislation?

Though I am not able to get Varikennels in Malaysia (only have DogIt Cargo) I will go by the dimensions of the one you suggested, thank you.

And lastly, the Frankfurt option would be very good for us if it's possible as we are bringing back 5 dogs so the cost is quite high, could you please give me a little more info about this. How come it is so much cheaper than flying to UK? And for the EU entry requirements, the procedure would just be the same for Frankfurt, is that correct? And would all the paperwork etc have to be checked again when coming into UK or just when arriving at Frankfurt?

Thanks a lot Louise.

You can fly 2 dogs each as excess baggage, the last time I did it, it was 250 euro one way.  Cargo in to the UK is about 1000 euro for a 75lb dog.  The UK rules are a lot stricter with regard to kennel size and the airlines enforce it.

You need to get everything except the tick and tapeworm for Germany, though you need to check the german embassy to make sure they don't require tick and tapeworm too if coming from Malaysia.  The only other thing that Germany requires is the dog must have had a rabies in the last year and at least 21 days prior to entrance even if it is a 3 year shot.

http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/05__Legal/02__Directory__Services/06__Customs/Pets/__Pets.html

Louise

Buster I would advise you to google DEFRA and contact them. They set the rules for all animal movement, pet passports etc in the UK and will give you all the answers you need. 

Paula