Strengthen Showline Genetics with Working Lines? - Page 3

Correct my saying; after many years; to mean after many breeding you can change the genetics.........

I would also add beauty is subjective: It makes me sick to the a GSD with it's butt dragging the ground and/or it's back so bowed it hurts to look at it. But how would I know, only had GSD's and worked them for alittle over twenty years....

Ya know, when I follow these pedigrees all the way back and take a look at V Beowulf....I have to ask myself if that was the goal, then the working dogs still look like that and act like what Captain Max Von Stephanitz expected....and that is the character I desire - a working breed that will protect, etc. to the end for the love of his master. However, I look at the gorgeous "Rin Tin Tin" look of the showlines and I think to myself that that is the look I love and want. I have had show and I have known some working dogs from afar. I cannot honestly say that if I had - along with my gorgeous schutzhund-trained showdogs (with their unending love for me and the whole family, etc.)- been in a REAL life-threatening situation, I would not have COMPLETE 100% confidence that they wouldn't back down in the face of a REAL...mean...nasty...evil person with intent to kill. I would, however, have more confidence in a working dog. ***But then again, if my infant crawled up to the food bowl when I was in the other room, I would trust my showdogs. I truly wish I could find both - I have only observed it in 1 dog - Quintor V Kiefbos - 2x schh3, AD, FH, KKL1a (check him out : http://bellsouthpwp.net/n/a/nan95/quintor1a.jpg )out of Gildo Von Der Nordquelle and Osin V Kiefbos...he was a working dog that somehow looked like a show dog - GORGEOUS. That is what I want. SO HARD TO FIND!!!! And the search continues...

Hi, I am new to this site but I have been breeding for 10 years. I breed WGR showlines with DDR bi-color dogs. The DDR dogs like most WRG showlines are big boned and have good structure. The DDR lines keep strong drives. You have to be careful not to get light eyes, or too much civil aggression. Many dogs I breed are very dominant and most become alpha dogs. Good luck with breeding.

GSDLVR If you are looking for showline looks but HARD working drives then you can email me personally at jogal2004@yahoo.com I have found a good combination with a certain line.

Psaguy06 - I ALWAYS wondered what would happen if you bred those two together - awesome!

I bred my showline to working lines. The pups came out spectacular. Beautiful black and reds not as roached back as mom and with enough drive to work but not drive you crazy.

I would trust my child with my high drive DDR female anyday. Even though her drives are extreme she is very clear headed. My two year old plays with her all the time. I did see a male from showlines, from one of the most famous kennels go after a young child because of screaming and playing. I picked up the child and held above my head and fought him off, luckily he never turned on me as he lunged up at the child.

I wonder just how much of that is genetic and how much is socialization or lack ther of? A dog like that no matter what the breeding, doesn't belong in public, off leash EVER, even at trial.

I agree with 4pack here. Lack of socialization is, in my opinion, the reason for most incidents like that. People leave there dogs alone in a backyard with little interaction and then expect what? Training starts when you bring your puppy home, part of that includes introducing them to the world, and as much of it as you can show them. Makes for a balanced adult. I talk tough about my high "sleep drive" VA male, but he is very balanced and easy to take in public. Lots and lots of socialization went into his early days to make him so. I had a neighbors dog come into my yard the other day and as I went to put him into my car to drive him home he acted like I was trying to kill him, obviously never been in a car before. He didnt try to bite me but I wondered for a minute or two if he would. I found out he is only 10 months old (a rhodesian ridgeback) and I bet in a year or so when he realizes how big he is, he could become dangerous. Why dont people who dont want to spend time with a dog just leave them alone?