Dog shot by police, her only crime was being old - Page 16

For Abby; Not here to go back and forth. No where in my comment did I say I agreed. (Nor disagree) I'll stay nuetral because these stories are just too exhaustiong to even get involved with anymore. Unfortunately the incident didn't take place in the UK so what pertains or doesn't pertain there does not pertain here. This is and will be another case of he said she said. And a spin by the OP in whatever direction you might want to call it. I'm guessing that this article or one like it will not be the first nor will it be the last.

because you don't like the method or outcome of an action that it does not mean it is wrong
Alboe, I was responding to this phrase only, maybe I should have said 'because one does agree doesn't make it right either' I didn't mean 'you' as in you personally.
I took great pains to always to mention that I did have a different perspective because I was in the UK, but it doesn't mean I can't have a view, or maybe I should just 'butt out' ?

I really hate seeing dogs chained up.  That doesn't look like a great situation and the poor dog doesn't look good. One question that occurs to me is why this call by the neighbours went out to the police at 1am? If this dog is in such bad condition and emaciated, it didn't get that way overnight. Why didn't the neighbours report it before this ? 

If these people were just leaving the dog there to breathe it's last and end it's life on it's own, (which may have taken days) if that were the situation, then I think it is even more of a sadness that the one final kindness of a 'gentle' release from this world wasn't granted to her, which the owners should have been MADE to do, and face prosecution for failing to provide veterinary care if it was appropriate. JMO.

Anyway, thanks Bee, I wish we lived in a perfect world. Oh how I wish - every day of my life! 

Abby

Being in the UK doesn't mean you can't have a view. It does mean your view may not consider the reality of conditions where the incident happened?
As to why the neighbors waited till 1AM? We don't know that they did. We've heard the police were at the Witless house at 12 and now 1. We don't know when the neighbors actually made the call and if this were the first time they called or if they attempted to talk to the owners before calling the police. In a small town it may take a bit for the police to respond to a call is they're working on other
calls. As far as the owners "being made to do something"? That's not the way it works here.
You have to bring charges and go to court and hearings and drag things on for months. While a dignified euthansia would have been preferred. The cop atempted to do the right thing  under the
circumstances. I still would like to see abuse charges filed against the owners.

Thomas Barriano

"Nice way to let a best friend live out it's life."

That poor dog had probably been chained to that same tree for 18 years.

That is exactly how I saw it also Keith.

One could take these articles and facts and start a new thread of an actual story. Only this STORY would be about owner animal abuse IMO.

If they sue, I hope law enforcement files animal abuse charges against them, in fact I wish they would anyway. That picture of the dog, plus law enforcement testimony, neighbor testimony and the refusing to take the dog to the Vet would get a conviction IMO.

I'd also love to hear the neighbors side of the story, describing what was bad enough in their opinion to require them to call law enforcement.

Thomas Barriano, LOL. We both posted at the same time. I didn't see your post as I was composing mine.

But I see we are still on the same page.

 

Thankful for all involved we are not in Albania.

 

Agenda flinging is again on the rise and yet, we know nothing more then we did on the OG post other then the owners now or then did not give permission to the officer to shoot their dog. OMG an officer falsified a report to reflect his position, wow thats never happened. OMG some scumbag changes their tune to makes an officer appear as a bad person and create wiggle room on a lawsuit wow thats never happened. Conjecture on thursday is in fact conjecture on friday and saturday. Goose gander thing.

 

I have to assume the mayor and the controller of the $4.52 left in the budget have to be thrilled with the decsion of the chief and the officer. In the midst or end of a cluster hump of police dog shootings, they draw national attention throwing themselves to the whim of conjecture and create the real possibility of emptying the last few dollars in their budget to lawyers. 

 

Once again for straight PR purpose's getting into the pet euthanasia business or shooting pets is a no win situation for police officers. It's not going to change. For straight self benefit the correct choice here was to wait till morning and have animal control take the heat and make the call, being that, thats their real, they have the training and offer a higher percentage chance of making the right call.

 

If it turns out that the dog was in fact eating and drinking and playing earlier in the day, as stated by the owners then the story turns again and the officer may.. read it again, may have made the wrong choice contrary to all the absolutes a photograph can provide us. With the all right intentions the officer would be fitting in nicely with Abbeys very solid point, is he qualified to make a decision like this. My add on, except in the most obvious of cases. 

 

If it turns out that the officer saw a suffering dog and made a decision based on the animal's best interest and not the towns budget, as for the moment it appears, balls of steal my man, good for you and thank you for doing whats best for that dog. Thats his story and the chiefs and for right now even with a lot of questions, there is no reason for me to assume they are not being truthful.

 

If the glove does not fit we must acquit. Oh come on smile, smirk... something thats a little funny right there I don't care who you are.

""Agenda flinging is again on the rise and yet, we know nothing more then we did on the OG post other then the owners now or then did not give permission to the officer to shoot their dog"".

We now know what the poor emanciated dog looked like as well as the owners, and his surroundings.

The Whitless duo did not appear all tore up over their dog's recent death either. Be damned if I could have or would have been giving interviews immediately after the death of one of my dogs.

LOL@Gigante. Agenda's are as agenda's do; but I have on a big smirk, thanks!    

Back back brilliance right there. An update... we can hang um high with clean conscience.
That officer did everything right except a ole school pistol whip.

Lets hope the judge finish the job. F'n amazing 

http://timesgazette.com/main.asp?SectionID=18&SubSectionID=175&ArticleID=185578

8/9/2012 7:20:00 PM Owner files complaint after officer shoots suffering dog  Police chief says dog was near death; second dog was shot Tuesday after attack By JEFF GILLILAND Editor While a police officer shooting a dog is not routine business, Greenfield Police Chief Tim Hester said one of his officers had few other choices last week when he was called to a scene where a dog was apparently near death and dispatched of it with two shots, after receiving approval from one of the dog's owners. "It's not an ideal situation, but in this case there weren't many options, and the owner said he was willing to do it, " Hester said Thursday. "The officer basically had two options - he could have cited the owner for animal cruelty, or he could have did what he did, which was dispatch of the dog with the owner's consent." Normally, Hester said, the dog would have been taken to a more remote location and shot, but it appeared to have mange and the officer could not risk putting the sick animal in a cruiser and spreading the disease to the dogs the department uses as part of its K-9 unit. According to an incident report from the Greenfield Police Department, at 12:10 a.m. Aug. 3, officer James Leeth was dispatched to 653 Pine St. in Greenfield in reference to a dog that was dying and was not being attended to by the owners, Fred and Billie Jo Whitley.  END OF SECTION. Lots more couldnt format go read the article then get your rope