Where does the buck stop! - Page 7

That´s not fair, Bob.
Every breeder knows he can rescue a dog like this maybe once in a while, but a good heart might become very expensive.
And everybody prays that this scenario doesn´t happen...(at least not more than once)

So the profit was okay at the frt but not at the end... And I disagree it,s brutally fair.

Bob, truthfully, I know I myself would have to figure out how to get it. The hell with the profit factor.
And I mean that, from the bottom of my heart.

"... if shelters were done away with, there would be no place to recycle the the dogs adopted out by them. Rescues are the same. The OWNERS of the dogs being unloaded on these well meaning groups are the ones who should be responsible for a dog they chose to own.......they should find a new home for the unfortunate dog, run adds, screen potential homes, etc"

If there aren't shelter or rescues, the people who can't be bothered to rehome their pets themselves STILL won't do it. They'll either dump the animals out 'in the country' near a wooded area or a farm, or try to kill the animal themselves and generally end up failing to do that cleanly and humanely, instead making a hell of a job out of torturing and maiming the poor thing after which they'll leave it somewhere to die of its injuries.  Don't think so?  It still happens here in the US, in places where there aren't shelters, or where the shelters charge a fee to anyone who surrenders an animal, 'stray' or not.

hexe drive down around mio they have an animal control but it happens all the time.  so much rural that it is easy to drop off a dog and know it won't be able to wander home.  and hope that someone will have pity on it and take it in.   some rural road near a farm.

Hell, rtdmmcintyre, it happens here in Ossineke, too--of the eight dogs a friend has on his farm, he only actually brought three of them home himself. The others are strays the showed up, got on well with the three resident dogs, and have never left. Interestingly enough, all of the strays were intact males when they came to stay, despite the fact that both of the resident females were spayed. Everybody's neutered now, though.  There's been a Mini Schnauzer showing up there recently, so it's possible he could end up with a ninth dog...

Hexe, Reggie - it doesn't even need to be rural, or far from a shelter;
in the UK sadly it happens all too often.  You get ppl drive the dog
to the park, throw the ball, hop back in their car and drive off.  You get
dogs tied to fences 3 blocks from a shelter.  They tie them to heavy
stones and throw them in rivers. They hang them from trees ...  sorry
I can't go on, sure you get the picture.

"Breeder licensing ? Policing?  State mandates? Required spay/neuter?"

I live in Vegas and this is what is required to have un altered dogs in the City of Las Vegas, County, North Las Vegas and Henderson. I didnt make the law but I get to live by it. If the dog ends up at the shelter and the owner does not have the necessary paperwork, the dog is altered with the owner footing the bill. And I agree with Hexe. People will just dump their dogs anywhere. And they do. Alot of dogs are dumped out in the desert.

To answer your question Bob....I would go and get the dog.

I dont know of any rescues that work the way being described here and Ive dealt with alot of rescues. I must live in the wrong part of the country.

Hexe, that happens here as well, even though there are "no fee"drop off "shelters"...these are mostly high kill shelters. All a person should do is either not get a dog, or if they buy it from a breeder then call the breeder for help. People will attempt to do in dogs regardless of free shelters or not. That is a sick portion of society that isn't going to be fixed by allowing free drop off. Spay neuter is not the answer, either, since there are still a lot of mix breeds at the shelters.
I'll tell you another problem is the specials that the shelters here do when they get filled up....just last week they had a special for cats and kittens. For twenty bucks, anybody could take a cat or kitten home, instead of the usual sixty dollars. Also, no screening. I know of a woman who had dogs that she was not taking care of, allowing them to roam the neighborhood, no shelter when they were tied to a tree in freezing rain during winter. We found homes for all three pitiful dogs. It wasn't a month before she had more; "adopting " and "fostering" from the shelter. Same figgin' thing.....English pointer pup tied to a bush, freezing rain and no shelter. Her excuse was that it was sick and had diarrhea so she didn't want it in the house. The shelter had been warned about her but they are STILL giving her cats and dogs to "foster". There are about fifteen or more cats running all over the place she " adopted" and is " fostering". I saw a dead one that coyotes obviously killed and partially ate when they were interrupted.
At least the shelter vet took in the little English pointer and put it on IVs and got it well. Then SHE found it a home. The situation is not being rectified as it is with unwanted pets.