Dog sold as titled dog for breeding, judge for yourself - Page 3

Poor dog, totally out of her depth in a busy kennel environment.  I'm surprised anyone would buy a showline bitch for breeding after being told she growls at strangers, that would have been a no no for me and not "expected" at all.  Of course you would expect a dog just let out into a run to relieve herself out there, but does not indicate good husbandry to put making a video priority over cleaning up.

Margaret N-J

I thought I recognized the kennel name from the post that disappeared...the seller is a newbie to the whole game, and frankly I doubt knows the difference between a dog that's 'stand-offish' with strangers and a weak-nerved spook like this poor bitch. The seller just bought [as in less than a month ago] a black 7 y.o. imported IPO3 titled Czech working line male.  Guess Euro show-line pup sales weren't as easy or as lucrative to accomplish as expected--the seller still has three 11 wk old pups left from this same bitch's litter of five; and it sounds like the poor dog was shipped the minute her pups were pulled off her. So the seller has now switched to a working line dog to stud out instead. Maybe buy a working line bitch or two later?  [Apparently has already burned bridges with the person who helped get the male, though, so that might be harder to accomplish.]

I feel badly for dogs that spend their life so frightened; as Christopher points out, chances are more likely that the run looked the way it did because the stress from being in a constant state of 'flight or fight' means the dog's cortisol levels are at a constant sky-high level, which stimulates peristaltic action in the GI system: thus, dogs like her are virtually feces factories and distribution devices, and it's hard to keep their runs clean. These were never the dogs we looked forward to seeing on the schedule when I helped out at my friend's boarding kennel. 

She's a dog that is going to take a LOT of work just to get her to where she could go to a pet home.  So very, very sad for this poor bitch.

Edited to add: For those who think the buyer should have known better because of the price, you need to consider that this isn't a young bitch in her prime--this female is 8 years old already, so SchH 2 titled or not, $3500.00,  especially for a dog that was already here in the states, is NOT what I'd consider to be 'cheap'.  It's a bitch a breeder would buy if they wanted to try and get one or maybe two litters from that particular lineage, knowing that the litter sizes were likely to be small.  There is no one here with any knowledge of the breed who would pay so little as $50.00 for her as a brood bitch OR as a pet. Any of us would have to be talked into taking her as a rescue to be rehabilitated so she could be placed in a pet home. And I'd be of the same opinion on this no matter who the two parties involved were.

 

Sorry, picking up faeces takes just a minute, the kennel owner could have put the camera down for that long surely!  It's not as if the dog was too dangerous to go in with.

Margaret N-J

Margaret, I agree with you re picking up before doing any filming; these days, one has to be very careful about what they write, say, photograph or videotape, and how they act in person, because it can take only a snippet of a videotape, a single captured image or sentence, to destroy someone.  It was a foolhardy oversight that can be [and already has been] used to dismiss or at the least trivialize the buyer's complaint, and yes, that individual is experienced enough to know better than leave a pile of stones on the doorstep for their detractors, so it did surprise me.

At the end of the day, though, I just keep going back to one thing:  poor, scared dog, who although she's not being mistreated she's also not feeling any real affection being directed her way.  It would be easy to feel a softness for the dog if she were a rescue, since our minds can then create all sorts of stories as to why the dog is so spooked.  With a dog that you just shelled out $3500.00 for, that's supposed to be a SchH2 titled dog and proven breeding female, it's got to be a bit harder to balance the feeling of being taken as a sucker with compassion for a scared dog who wasn't the one who made the promises and claims to you and all she knows is that she's not someplace she feels safe. 

And Margaret, I think we need a fresh update on the doings of Digby Dogby, to cleanse our palatte from Danno's experience and the sadness of this female's life of fear. 

Given I am the 8th owner in 3 1/2 years of my current dog, it's clear to me that this is not a breed that thrives when being passed from hand-to-hand. Will people ever get that through their thick skulls? My dog had 7 other homes through no fault of her own........ ill health of a few of the owners, she got too big to special, she was too protective, not enough room for another dog after all...... yadda, yadda, yadda.  She wasn't mistreated physically, was simply considered dispensible by most. The most common remark I heard from dog breeders was - well there MUST be something wrong with her to have had so many homes. That's the just way some people think about these dogs - a lot of homes? Has to be a bad dog. Right? Wrong! IMO it's kinder to put down a GSD that to pass it around like a used kitchen appliance.

IMO the best thing that could happen to the dog in question is that some caring soul can rehab her and give her a forever home. Otherwise, she is doomed to live a life of fear and uncertainty, no dog deserves that. It would be much kinder to have her euthanised.

 

i've been the end home for more than one dog that has had multiple owners and none of them ever acted anything like that.  The closest thing was 2 that had spent 3 and 4 years as kennel dogs and then being brought in the house.  Tile floors and steps were a bit strange for them, but they were over that in a day.  I happen to find well bred GSD's some of the most adaptable dogs around.  Problem is, so many are bred on paper and people ignore what's in front of them.

Your older dogs may have had better starts than this dog, Zdog. Sounds as if she's been in transit for most of her 8 years. My dog didn't act like this either, but  without knowing how this dog was handled in the past, I think it's hard to be too critical of her breeding.
 

Poor dog. This is obviously a very, discerning shepherd who would have preferred a choice in where she would end up. The feces bothered me, I don't doubt they would bother this girl. 

I thought the dog was 6 years old? I think born in 2007? I looked at her pedigree last night so I cannot remember. She is on WinSis as SchH 1 and Kkl 1.