Dog sold as titled dog for breeding, judge for yourself - Page 4

Maybe she is 6, I thought I read 8.

What was the purpose of releasing this video?

If a dog is in the states why would you not look at her before purchasing an adult dog for breeding?

Poor girl.

I've seen a lot of dogs stressed by being kenneled increased their output but that's a lot of output....

Are people saying that would be normal for some stressed dogs on a daily basis?  Not being snarky, genuine question.

The kennel set up did look like you could get her out in a yard with minimal stress for clean up.

Betty, I don't know...I wondered that. I don't think that's normal by a long shot, but it may be "normal" for a nervous, soft dog who has had to do without a bond in her life for a very long time. That's a chaotic environment for a dog like that, and the disdain in the videographer's voice is palpable. That alone is enough for a dog with weaker temperament to pick up on and be affected by. She seems sensitive and very alone- not a dog used to having a kind handler she could count on. 

I still say $3500 for a 6yr old is cheap. I would never sell mine (period...but for the sake of argument) for that little just so someone could squeeze another litter or two out of her. I realize this happens "all the time" but let's try to at least consider the temperament of the dog when evaluating potential situations for them. A rock solid, outgoing, happy and confident dog may do fine and bond quickly- not my personal cup of tea but I can swallow that a lot better than watching this poor, terrified dog be made a public spectacle of by someone who saw a quick profit and can't be bothered to make sure her living quarters are at least clean. If she were a house dog, living in a shitty kennel is even more stressful; I know my dogs would not be happy or comfortable not being let outside to use the bathroom. 

I don't see any reason why she can't go to a patient pet home; she may be fine in a different situation. She didn't look like she was going to kill anyone. I just gave an import away that I had $6,000 into. None of you saw any smearing on the internet. He flew to his beautiful pet home yesterday where he'll have a super life, and money is just money (you can say that when you have none anyway! LOL). He'll be happy and will be well taken care of. I suppose I could've made recouping some money my priority, but when dealing with dogs, not sweaters or vehicles, you MUST consider the dog's happiness both right now and in the future. If you can't provide what the dog needs, then let them go somewhere with someone who can/will.  

Life sucks right now for this poor dog. Hopefully the video will make someone  come forward and offer to buy her and get her out of there. I know I would if I had the money. And if our videographer friend would ever sell me a dog. LMAO.

We recently buried our soft nervy 13 year old pet.  He was a white shepherd with the temperament flaws that is often, rightly or wrongly,  associated with the whites.

He would of displayed much the same behavior in a kennel situation I think, if not shut down completely.

Didn't make him any less of our heart dog. 

And he did fine in the house.

I'm sorry, I just don't see that much of an out put as being normal on a daily basis regardless of the stress.  And if someone told you a dog growled at strangers why would you not evaluate that in person before purchasing for
breeding?  Especially if you've been around the block a time or two.

My heart breaks for that girl.  Poor thing.
 

IMO without knowing the history of a 6 year old dog, it's not possible to say how much is genes, how much environment.  Maybe other  dogs would act this way if they had the same life, maybe not. It's moot anyway.

I am very curious to know if this girl is in good health.  Just having a young litter, being stressed with shipping, change in environment, being in a kennel,  I would venture to say something is not healthy about this girl... I would run full blood panel and urine evaluation on this bitch.  Start there and if all looks good then at least you know she should be in good enough health to try to rehome her.  Have seen spooky dogs like this before and kennel situations is not a good place for this type temperament.  Probably different people in and out;  she is just totally stressed and having a month long melt down.  Cannot be anything less healthy for her.  So sorry for this bitch though,  absolutely a heart wrencher.  Nan

first off I do feel really badly for the dog.  It's obvious it's stressed, unhappy, and has been tossed around and has served no utilitarian purpose other than to make some people some money.  I don't think the videographer deserves a penny back and I actually wish she'd go away.  She tried to maximize profits by selling dogs she knew were going to be sub standard.  Who sells a good brood bitch of any age for 3500 bucks?????  You're not that special lady, trust me.  You got taken by something you should have know so much better for.  That's dumbass on your part.  Too bad the dog is going to pay for your crap.  But that's not really new.

But people need to quit making so many damn excuses for a dog.  This dog does NOT have a good temp for breeding.  It would probably be ok as a pet with a patient owner with little going on their lives.  You think some of my older dogs had a better start?? I can't think of a much worse start a dog could have other than seeing a kennel and nothing else for the first 4 years of it's life.  no training, no interaction ,no nothing, just a  kennel and they were NOTHING Like this dog.  Dogs with good temperaments are pretty good and living in the moment and not in the past.

GSD's are incredibly adaptable, or at least should be.  A dog with decent enough temperament can get over a lot.  SOmethings may take more than 10 seconds to get over, but it shouldn't take a month.  and there's a difference between showing a bit of apprehension to something it has never seen before and being ready to jump out of its skin over something as trivial as a person that has been feeding you standing on the other side of a fence with a camera.  

If people would demand BETTER from their breeders maybe we wouldn't have so many discussions about the "downfall" of the breed????? Just maybe???
 

All may be true Zdog but that does not help this bitch at this present time.  It is the bitch that is paying the price.  Now ask yourself is this fair to her??  It is her wellbeing that is my concern and is she even placeable at all.  Has she been tested on kids, cats, and other dogs??  Can she even be rehomed;  I guarantee, and I don't need to tell all you breeders this that she will probably pass that temperament on to her progeny.  Not fair to do that to future puppies...  Nan

Excellent post zdog, with many good points