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by joanro on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Great! But the problem is that China doesn't care what FDA tells them. They don't follow the same rules the US manufacturers must follow. That's why there is a problem with products from China.

by beetree on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Great! But the problem is that China doesn't care what FDA tells them. They don't follow the same rules the US manufacturers must follow. That's why there is a problem with products from China.

That is where you are misinformed. If FDA advises they can not sell their product here, because of our new regulations, they will rush to make it right. 


by joanro on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Believe what you want, bee. Life goes on and my dogs won't be put at risk and I will continue to advise my puppy owners to stay clear of dog products labeled made in China.
The End.

vonissk

by vonissk on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Joan I 100% agree. And not just China but Mexico also--they don't give a damn--I know this is a teeny bit off topic--I saw a think on CNN about this Am guy who was a kingpin in Mexico making illegal precription drugs--not onmly were they illegal they had shit in them that w3as dangerous and yes caused a few deaths. Do you think if they don't give a damn about people that they are going to care anymore qabout dogs?
And Joan, my dogs like fresh veggies too or name brand canned ones I KNOW are canned right here in the US.
My other thing those Waggin Tails things are sold mostly by Dollar General here. Why oh why would people buy food and treats at the dollar store in the first place? I think what you buy there is different than stuff you get in the regular stores. Otherwise why does it have DG's logo on it and be so much cheaper. I am talking purina, Iams and Pedigree for the "name brands" --I forget their generic stuff--I think it is called Everpet. God only knows what's in it and where it comes from. So just IMO it is as much the buyer's fault as the manufactorer--but I guess people are so hooked up on their pets being second class that anything will do................Read your labels folks and stop feeding your pets things manufactored in places YOU won't eat food from....................

by beetree on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

I believe in the facts Joan and Voniisk, and they happen to be on my side. You can believe what you want. 

I would take up the FDA on their offer to hear your rant, though, it should be a good outlet for your misguided beliefs.

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Bee, I think that your faith in the FDA is sadly misplaced. The FDA has limited powers and funding for the inspection and regulation of food products for human consumption. They inspect a tiny, tiny fraction of what is imported into this country, and only a slightly larger percentage of what is produced here domestically. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-11/food-sickens-millions-as-industry-paid-inspectors-find-it-safe.html. This is why it is important to research the countries themselves and their practices, and screen for your own consumption, because no one is really doing it for you. Yes, the amount they do is better than NOTHING, but it is also nothing I like to rely on.

by beetree on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

Molly and Jack, while you might think I am naive and not appreciating your point of view, I must insist I do know what insistence on FDA compliance can accomplish within Chinese manufacturing and exporting to our country. Did I mention I have family experts who know about this kind of thing?

 

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 25 October 2013 - 12:10

That's fine, I am perfectly capable of agreeing to disagree.

And for those that are interested, I come at this from a different perspective, having worked some on water quality issues, etc. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/04/14/why-does-fda-tolerate-more-radiation-than-epa/

(My point in posting this isn't about scary scary radiation, ooh, but that different guiding philosophies in different organizations have far-reaching effects, and we should pay attention.)

by joanro on 25 October 2013 - 13:10

Bee, get your family experts to make China stop producing contaminated products...since you seem to imply your family has influence.

by beetree on 25 October 2013 - 13:10

-I saw a think on CNN about this Am guy who was a kingpin in Mexico making illegal precription drugs--not onmly were they illegal they had shit in them that w3as dangerous and yes caused a few deaths. Do you think if they don't give a damn about people that they are going to care anymore qabout dogs?

Voniisk, see you are talking about illegal dealings, and that is opposite to being FDA approved. 

So, I suppose that means, you, Joan, and MollyandJack—you don't want FDA involved in the pet food supply? So how does that solve the tainted "jerky" problem? Just let them remain on the shelves and hope everyone will boycott them and let the mystery of it all scare people away? 

Hmmm. How many more dogs will suffer doing it that way instead of requiring standards to be met? Of course there will be scofflaws to the standard, but many more will do the right thing than are doing it today. Funny how that is not obvious!





 


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