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Victory

by Victory on 01 May 2014 - 20:05

Well Interesting, 

 

The German Shepherd Dog Club of America, as represented by their attorney, Mr. Israel,  has 

sent a letter to Dan Yee, president of the WDA ,

officially severing ties/relationship of the German Shepherd Dog Club of America with the WDA.

"Official" public word on this to come, from what I understand. 

This is a fact, so we all await the club communication on this.


by wallacepayne on 01 May 2014 - 21:05

Oh Well!


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 01 May 2014 - 22:05

So maybe we do get a 3 way WUSV qualifier in 2015??  Should be interesting .. did the GSDCA ever pay their bills to the WDA??  I guess the GSDCA president decided to blame everything on the WDA .. the event came in on budget but the revenues were lower than expected from what I saw.  When it is your party you have to pay and the WUSV 2013 was the GSDCA's party.


by Bob McKown on 02 May 2014 - 15:05

My question will be since, quote "officially severing ties/relationship of the German Shepherd Dog Club of America with the WDA"  UScA will still be contractually bound to allow GSDCA entries at trials but not WDA since there only affiliation was thru said agreement with GSDCA ? I guess time will tell. 


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 02 May 2014 - 15:05

All members of the WUSV are bound to follow it's constitutions and bylaws .. period.  There is no contract with anyone .. just follow the rules and the WUSV writes and interprets them .. the USCA, GSDCA, WDA, and all member clubs of the WUSV follow them as a requirement of membership in the WUSV.


by Bob McKown on 02 May 2014 - 16:05

The WDA is only recognized thru affiliation with the GSDCA which apparently is no more. Quote from a letter from Danny Sprliter to the membership " The GSDCA-WDA can never fully realize its place for the breed as long as it falls under the realm of the GSDCA. And fall it does. The GSDCA holds the seat in the WUSV and controls the flow of judges, events and all paperwork." The WDA does not show up on the WUSV web site as a member.


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 02 May 2014 - 16:05

The WUSV can recognize anyone they want so long as the WUSV membership approves it by majority vote or acclimation and the USCA nor any other WUSV member has anything to say about it once so approved.  Everyone as a condition of membership and participation in the WUSV must follow the WUSV rules, constitution and bylaws and there is no contract between the member clubs to do anything under the WUSV.  The WUSV is a top down heirarchy and there are no lines on the club charts that connect individual clubs save the SV which holds the presidency of both organizations.  The WUSV and the SV by default is in charge of who gets recognized or becomes a member.  The WUSV can revoke or suspend membership as they threatened in 2013 in the case of the USCA breaking the rules concerning scorebooks and admission to trials and the WUSV can have 10 members per country if the majority membership is so inclined.  The SV holds about 25% of the votes in the WUSV, so in essence the SV and their close European allies form a majority that runs the WUSV.


Mystere

by Mystere on 02 May 2014 - 16:05

 Lemme see, now.  

 

Hmmm... According to "that letter,"  USCA had to recognize WDA's scorebooks because (BIG LIE, as now proven by this new letter), WDA and GSDCA were supposedly one and the same,  GSDCA is a member of WUSV, and GSDCA issued  the scorebooks.   Hmmm, those scorebooks are now null and void, aren't they?   WDA is stand-alone, now, so WHO recognizes any scorebooks it might issue.   Will any of its trials/titles be recognized by anyone else, or will it become the German Shepherd ARV?

 

Hmmm..  WDA's "main event,"  the NASS, is coming up.  WDA obtained SV judges via GSDCA.  Unless Yee  has already worked out a deal with Henke for direct access to SV judges (and unless Henke has the juice to back up such a deal), can there be a NASS?   WDA does not have its own conformation judges.   

 Hmmmm... Speaking of Sieger Shows, are there actually dogs entered in the USCA Sieger Show that are owned by the GSDCA president and his family?????   

 

Hmmmm... Speaking of judges, what if WDA's judges want to "come over" to USCA, as the WDA ship appeare to be taking on water?   One is a defrocked USCA judge, who, as a result of BOI charges, lost his judge's license and was suspended for 20 years; two "washed out" of USCA's judges program and one is reputed to have never titled a dog.     Without the connection to GSDCA, can those who were granted the SVF license keep them?

 

There will be no "three-way" qualifier.    The agreement and the concept allowed for entries only from USCA's national events and the ONE  GSDCA [sic]-WDA national event.  Remember, GSDCA and WDA were supposedly one and the same; GSDCA has no qualifying event of its own.  The question is actually whether without the GSDCA affiliation, WDA has any standing to participate in a qualifier, or the WUSV  World Championship at all.   Arguably, the trial woulld be only among the ten USCA qualifiers to select the Team.    With the WUSV pushing for years to get all the countries to only one representative, and toleraing dual organizations but grudgingly, it is doubtful that three would even be countenances--that would open the flood-gates for other countries to insist on the same.  

 

No, I think WDA is stuck with the consequences of the BIG LIE:  it is one and same with GSCA , so when GSDCA amputates that limb, the limb goes  into the  medical waste chute for disposal.

 

Of course, NONE of this has anything to do with USCA.   Even the most vociferous of the "USCA Conspiracry Theorists" are not claiming that USCA caused/mae/forced GSDCA to kick WDA to the curb...yet.    USCA need only sit back,observe, and perhaps develope a plan of action for dealing with the WDA members abandoning ship.  Some of them are people who left USCA under clouds, and USCA would be well-advised NOT to allow them to join again.   It is not as if such individuals are not "known quantities."  It is easier and cleaner not to let them in in the first place, than it will be to deal with them via the disciplinary procedure, and possible litigation, down the line.

 


by Blitzen on 02 May 2014 - 17:05

I'm not sure if this is going to matter to most of you, but the GSDCA has recently created a new Working Dog Committee intended to take another look at where they want to be in the future and to generate a program to get there. Helen Gleason is chairing that committee and I feel sure she would like to hear comments and suggestions  from people who actually work and title their dogs. It might be of more value to the breed to work together on a working program rather than not.

 http://gsdca.org/join-the-gsdca/committee-contacts?resetfilters=0

You'll may have to enter "working dog" in the comittee search box.


Mystere

by Mystere on 02 May 2014 - 22:05

Possibly of  some interest:

 

GSDCA-WDA October Hundegram October 2009
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Issue: October 2009  
    GSDCA Board Meeting October 2009   On a motion made by Tish Walker, President elect of the GSDCA, and unanimously approved by the Board of Directors of the GSDCA - The German Shepherd Dog Club of America is supporting the recognition of Schutzhund by the AKC and endorsing the GSDCA-WDA as the organization administering schutzhund events for the German Shepherd Dog. The GSDCA and the GSDCA-WDA will work together to establish a procedure for this. The Board of Directors also took the following actions:   1. Approved the GSDCA-WDA developing the guidelines and hosting the event to qualify the member(s) for the WUSV Universal Sieger Event.   2. Approved the GSDCA-WDA Board of Directors, in concert with the WUSV 2013 Committee, National Speciality Committee and the Centennial Committee, finding sites for the 2013 WUSV World Championship.   3. Directed the GSDCA-WDA to develop the Team Guidelines and Team Code of Conduct (Etiquette Guidelines).   4. Hosting a Joint Meeting of the two boards in Dallas, Texas in January.   5. Approved the development of guidelines creating the GSDCA National Cup as the second event for qualifying for the GSDCA WUSV Team. The National Cup will become a Schutzhund event.    
 





 


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