Sport Dog Guarding - Page 6

Thanks Kim, he was a great dog to work.  Still a loud mouth when he sees a sleeve at 12 years old now, but he's lost that ability to launch up your face like he used to.  It really sucks how fast dogs get old. 

 Bzcz I will not give you shit like the others but just tell you  how to make link live.  Tape  the link which you want to transfer. Put the cursor where you would like to have the live link. Above the field where you type your text,  look up a  symbol which looks like in the middle broken oval  link of a chain. ( it is second to the left of the little back flag in the second row from above. ) Click on it .  Paste into   the field the link . Click "OK" in the green field. There you go. Now you have live link in your text. 

 

Thanks Prager. 

As far as working  your own dog I do not see any problem with that WHAT SO EVER!. ( REFERRING TO THE FIRST VIDEO)  The dog on the video is mostly  in prey and barks with high pitched voice because he knows the sleeve bite is coming and is frustrated that it is not coming at that moment ( that is were the conflict if any was) ...but  the bite  did come later as he expected. That was the reason for " the conflict"   and not as some  said that he is in conflicting defense against his own owner. JMO. 

 The child holding the dog is also OK,...well he is really not holding it, he is just standing there, ... the back tie is holding the dog. If you trust the dog then it is a good way to introduce your child to this work and to the dog it gives a feeling that someone is there as it usually is during such training. 

 Dogs are not stupid and well adjusted dog will understand what is going on. The child, his master doing one man routine in prey...... and it would not be much problem if done properly to do it in defense or in more defense - true defense too. As I said dogs are not stupid. I have trained many civil dogs in prey and  defense with one man routine and did all the foundation training and conditioning my self. Of course, after doing it successfully  40 + years  now, I am told that that is bad thing to do. :) 

 Huh never though I will defend BZCZ. But truth is truth. 

 Prager hans

Bzcz

I wouldn't work my own dig in defense. That's like sleeping with your cousin. It's wrong and someone always ends up messed up. I would rather work prey between good helpers. 95% of IPO is prey anyhow.

Bob

Axel was well equipped for Koos. I know those Hoosiers are not dissimilar. He grew up tall and he grew up right with those Indiana boys on that Indiana night. Damn dairy farmers!

Not my personal cup of tea...but you gotta do what works for you.  If you are seeing results and have success in your chosen venue then thats whats important.

Not my personal cup of tea...but you gotta do what works for you.  If you are seeing results and have success in your chosen venue then thats whats important.

Yes I respect your sentiment. I know that it is iconoclastic idea but  here is food for thought .  Do you think that 2 free style cage fighters can train together, and fight each other in competition and, at the same time,  be the best friends? I do. Now I do not suggest that people who do not understand the dynamics of such one man routine of dog training  do it in defense.  However in prey that is absolutely no problem. Bite on a sleeve is a same as bite at a tug toy. Sleeve or body suite is a toy.  To do civil prey work is little more involved and difficult. Like we see on the video dog is targeting the man with his hold and bark but his reward is still bite on sleeve. And to do civil defense work with one man routine is even more involved and can be done only be experienced trainers as with correct dog with tons of foundation before that type of a training is commenced.

 Prager Hans

 

 

 

 

" Sleeve or body suite is a toy.  To do civil prey work is little more involved and difficult. " Never thought I´d ever read these words written from you

" And to do civil defense work with one man routine is even more involved and can be done only be experienced trainers as with correct dog with tons of foundation before that type of a training is commenced. "
I don´t think so, but that´s MY opinion and MY experience. A dog is no human, and a dog in defense doesn´t "train".

I still think BZCZ does own a good dog ( good grips, good focus, good drives ) but needs a different helper, otherwise there always will be a conflict in the dog, and he will never reach his full potential.
Sadly good helpers don´t grow on trees, and BZCZ has to use the recources he has - himself.

Body suit is not a toy when a dog has never had training with sleeve or body suit prior to biting a decoy wearing it . The suit was there to protect the decoy, not to cue the dog to bite. It all depends on the circumstance.