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Hundmutter there wasn't a deposit made.  The discussion had been about three dogs and when they wanted to make a deposit the breeder said only two.  So no monies had even changed hands yet.   I do understand research time but that isn't something tangible that makes someone obligated to you for.  I also understand being a person of your word.  But then sometimes things happen outside of our control.   I don't understand why Jerzy feels so strongly against the breeder since no money has changed hands and the only thing invested at this point is time.  And up till the time of this posts He still could have gotten two pups.  It sounds more to me like things were said during the last phone call and things got heated between the two of them.  Now while that is sad that you didn't get a breeding that you wished I don't see it anywhere near fraud or a scam. 

Jerzy there are many good show lines here in the states for sale on a regular basis.  Part of the problem here is that so many who show rather then looking here at home to buy, buy from Germany or elsewhere. So very high quality pups end up in pet homes instead of show homes and never see a show.  So they go unnoticed and people continue to buy from Germany.  Spend some time looking at some breeders here.  The nice thing about that is you can actually travel to the breeder and look at the pups in person.

You are right, no deposit was made, Jerzey should move on.
What I don´t like are Germans treating foreign customers like 2. choice. In my world a word still is a word, no matter where my sales partner comes from.
In this case at least no financial harm was done. I don´t believe that the breeder in question is trying to scam anybody, I just think he has to learn.

I agree Suzie.  I at the same time do understand what you are saying about how many German breeders treat foreign customers.  That is why If I were intent on buying from Germany I would instead of dealing direct would deal with someone who had already had personal contacts.  I also wouldn't take it as a  personal affront that they could do this more efficiently then I could.  But rather taking advantage of the fact that I knew someone who knew the customs, language and intent.  Even here in the states, when I moved from the north to the south the customs, way people spoke and even some of the very same words were very different.  Some things said in one place became extremely offensive in the other.  Or at least were misunderstood.  Some want to deal directly because they feel it would be cheaper but that isn't always the case.  If a person feels the other has real deep pockets the automatic tendency is to see how deep.  Then it becomes even more expensive. 

"So very high quality pups go to pet homes instead of show homes ..."

That is so very true of the UK too, Reggie.  British-bred, or German imports.

Sad for the 'sport';  especially now an increasing number of the Show people manage

to Survey and work/prove their exhibition dogs, as well as running them round a ring.

Just as we get to a point where GSDs are seriously being considered as a working

breed again, the Show scene takes a down-turn.    Ho-hum.

Well at least Tim did not take Deposit money from Jerzy - if he did not tell the OP

where to send it to, and instead said he could not supply more than two pups, it

certainly does seem to be a storm in a teacup, with Jerzy just p'd off because he

has for some reason been found 'unsuitable' !  Who can say whether Tim would

or would not take the same line with someone else asking to buy multiple pups ?

Why does anyone ASSume the puppies went to pet homes ?  Tim may have found great working homes in Europe where he coudl keep track of them instead of shipping them to  Texas.  I want my puppies to go to individual homes where they'd be loved and not sell multiple puppies to a collector or a broker that wants to resell to homes that I might not approve of.

Thomas Barriano

I wasn't saying any of those went to pet homes.  I was saying he didn't have to buy from Germay.  That many good ones here in the states go to pet homes that could go to show homes.

Thomas there was no need for you to do that with the first part of the word assume,  I have never been anything but nice and polite to you.

rtdmmcityre,i agree with you you what you saying 100%,please don't pay any attention to Thomas, you are waisting your time,do like i do ignore him,i am not responding to any of his comments,and i feel much better now.I made my point,and everybody can do whatever wants to do.I will never buy a dog from Tim Klatt and this is final,his puppies are now on PDB in'' puppies for sale '' section right now,and seems to me like they were not that desirable in Germany like he thought they would be.

Reggie,

I was replying to the quote from Hundmutter. I didn't know where it had come froml  I think Tim probablly found a better home in Europe and could keep better track of the puppies.

Jerzy

If you are going to ignore my posts (find and dandy with me) then you should have NO reason to mention me in your posts or to advise Reggie what to do.  Tim is adveritsiing again looking for suitable homes. Apparently he was not happy with the homes he'd found so far

Thomas Barriano