Looking for a Weimaraner - Page 4

Ok, so maybe I was a little grumpy, but honestly.   My post was asking for leads on breeders (recomendations) and current or upcoming litters, nothing more.  Instead of getting that, there are 4 pages of criticizem on my requesting blue eyes and a reserved temperment.   Very few gave me credit to know exactly what I was looking for (I have other threads where I have requested information and experience with a breed, so I know when to ask questions), and simply respond with "here is a breeder/litter."  In order for someone to provide me the information I was looking for, they have to weed through 4 pages of posts that will likely turn them off to responding.

I did not go into mine or my mother's knowledge and experience with this breed, as I was not looking for opinions.   I have been around enough dogs and I understand (and accept) my limitations to know before I jump into taking on another living things life.   Have I not posted enough to express this?  I do not go into anything with blinders on.

As for mine and my mother's knowledge of this breed, yes we have knowledge.  Would I own one, no, as they are not my type of dog.  Do I know what my mother can/can't handle, yes.  She is fully capable of handling this type of dog.   Isn't this something that should be between the breeder and I though?

Do I understand the difference between a blue eyed husky and a blue-gray eyed Weimaraner?  Yes, very much so.   I respect this site and the people in it; to raise and know quality dogs.   If I wanted an ill bred, cheap dog, I would not have come on here to waste anyone's time.  Just because the dog will be a companion dog, does not mean I want something cheap.  Just means, I am not looking for the pick of the litter.   If the litter only has breeding quality females, likely they are getting top dollar and I am not needing that so I do not want to spend top dollar.    Everyone here freely understands that not every dog in every litter is top of the line, yet when someone asks for something other than top of the line, people are quck to jump in and criticize.

Think about what was posted here.   If you posted the same thread as me and received the same responses, would you not be taken aback and some what insulted?  

Blue/Grey eyed was not on your list....it listed 'Blue' eyed. There is a difference. If you didn't expect opinions on what your dream dog must have, why did you post a list of requirements..if all you wanted was a name of a breeder with a litter, why not only ask--any body know a breeder with a litter of weimeraners? . You want to single me out, that's OK. But I was the first one to give you a link where to find litters...lots of them. And i guess you contacted the dozens of breeders in cyber time because you came back immediately and said none of them had what youre looking for. Maybe you should import one since your dream dog doesn't exist in the US. Just a suggestion. Anyway, take heed to what Susie and panzertoo said...they are not being romantic, but they are being realistic. And given the experience of the people responding, no I would not be 'taken aback or insulted'. I would be greatful for the wakeup to reality of a breed that, like most breeds, is described in such a way by the akc standard to lead one to believe all breeds boil down to what color and body style is your preference...like buying a car.

1.  The list of breeders and link you gave me clearly stated when the last litter was born and how many females were in the litter.  So yes, I was able to make a quick assessment.   You would have seen the same if you looked at the information listed for each of the breeders in the link.

2.  Based on what I have seen on this site, all who responded are primarly involved with GSD and herding dogs.  I rarely see anyone with hunting dogs post.  So yes, I would definitly question their knowledge on the breed, beyond what anyone can read on the AKC website.  Sorry, but I do not believe everyone is all knowing, nor do I take anyone's word for fact without researching and validating.   

3.  Dream dog?  No, the dog I described is fairly common with this breed (if you had any real experience with the breed, you would know this).   I am looking for a puppy to get within the next few months.   Can I find plently of breeders, sure, but none that have a current litter or one due to whelp.   Unlike the GSD, most breeders for Weimaraners do not over breed their stock and maybe have 1 litter a year.  So, finding a current litter is a challenge (again, if you were really familiar with the breed, like you are with GSDs, you would know this).

Honestly, I think most of the posts were to create drama, which, since this was my thread, I do not appreciate.  You can take it personally if you want.   Maybe there is something inside you that knows what I state is true.    Maybe go back to the attage of if you can't really contribute, keep your opinions to yourself.

This is my first mention of blue eyes. You call this criticism?

"Fawn, why are you looking for a blue eyed weimaraner?"

This was my comment on 'reserved'.....met by your defensive attack.

"......reserved temperament in a weimaraner may not be a good thing...friendly and social will be better..."

This was my comment on my first experience with the breed, in 1972......"The first weimaraner I ever got to know was when I was in the army in the early seventies. A guy in town had one, he was a 'hippy' and when he would 'over indulge' at a party, his weimaraner( which was with him every where the guy went) would lay over his master guarding him till he revived...no one dared to step with in ten feet of the two. When the guy was sober, the dog still stayed by his master's side, not a social butterfly."

As for experience with breeds other than gsd and 'herding dogs', FYI, I have owned and hunted smooth fox terriers since 1985, had a redbone hound many years ago, I've own a walker coon hound, I've own beagles, a basset , a Sheeba inu, huskyxwolf hybreds, an Irish terrier.......none of those are herding dogs. The first dog I was paid to correct some behavioral issue was a Rhodesian ridgeback, 1975. I have also trained weimeranner, Airedale terriers, one that was a handler agressive Oorang Airedale...just to name a couple other breeds, not herding dogs. And I have no idea what breeds of dogs anyone else has owned, but Susie made it clear she has experience with the weim. Maybe you need to stop taking such a defensive attitude when things don't come out exactly as you plan. But on a public forum, one tends to hear from the public, not just what is fuzzy. The only one creating drama is you.

I'll be the bad guy. Fine by me. It needs to be said. 

Are we, a group of fairly experienced (some more than others) dog owners/handlers, really supposed to read people's posts for years and never form an opinion on their handling capabilities? Are we really supposed to operate like robots and just spit out whatever it is you punch in that you want? Let's be realistic- Fawn, you have been on here long enough and we've read enough of your posts to gauge your level of experience and ability. You've come on here time and again with problems with the dogs you already have, from breeding dogs with Mega-E to your dogs running all over the countryside to your dogs fighting amongst themselves...forgive us if we didn't immediately rush in to provide you yet another disaster waiting to happen in the form of a correctly bred Weimeraner. The posts were made out of GENUINE CONCERN for both your mom and the dog. Perhaps we jumped to conclusions and maybe your mom is a top notch trainer. The fact that you have to ask things that other people can find on their own in minutes belies a level of experience in dogs possibly not suited to a high-powered, correctly bred working dog. 

Bottom line, we're dog lovers. We don't want to see them incorrectly placed any more than we want your mom to go through hell with a dog she cannot possibly handle. Nor are we going to clamor to steer you in the way of a BYB selling blue-eyed Weims. 

Best of luck. It's clear you would rather go it alone. 

LOL. look at the kettle calling the pot black.

I am done.  I have requested that this thread be locked.  It is not helping anyone and I am falling into the negative cycle.

So when the "correct" answers are not posted, the thred gets locked? No one meant to upset you, fawn. Guess we didn't realize how we should have to answer your op.

I don't really get the "pot, kettle" reference, or "kettle, pot" as you say...unless you're implying that I either frequently seek the board's help in controlling my dogs or I'm a BYB...either way, as I said, it's clear you were not looking for input and apparently, we misunderstood. Perhaps this is an educational thread about the Weimeraner for those who might like to learn about them?