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Birdy

by Birdy on 10 March 2007 - 02:03

Spook It's happening here in the Mid-West. I heard someone complain that 100lbs of corn has gone up by $4.00 in 6 months. May not sound like much now but it's when you feed livestock. The other issue here about ethanol is it takes copious amounts of water and it's threatening to lower the water table in our adjoining town if this ethanol plant gets approval. Heard today that sugar is better for making ethanol but there are alot of gov't subsidies that keeps the corn and soy in the forefront even though the sugarbeet would be a more suitable way to make the ethanol. Also, here E-85 is half again as expensive as gas. Just a month ago Gas here was selling for $1.89 now up to $2.36 a gallon. Birdy...

Birdy

by Birdy on 10 March 2007 - 02:03

I should have said E-85 is half again more than gas and hard to find. Birdy...

sueincc

by sueincc on 10 March 2007 - 02:03

I think in Brazil, the cars are running on 100% ethanol, and it's made from sugarcane. Well, at least it's a renewable resource, and doesn't have to come from an unstable part of the world, so maybe it's a step in the right direction. Of course, it is my understanding it creates a lot more polution, so it's far from perfect, but at least it's a step!

DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 10 March 2007 - 03:03

Takes alot of energy to produce ethanol vs gas.. And yes it does create more pollution. We need to nuke the middle east and then take over the oil fields...

Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 10 March 2007 - 03:03

Thanks Birdie. I am very please with the whole litter. Lucky puppies... most are already in working homes. I am keeping a male and a female. SS

DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 10 March 2007 - 03:03

Actually almost 80% of Brazils cars (all 239 of them) run on ethanol. Trucks still use diesel fuel made from oil. (FoxNews.com)

VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 10 March 2007 - 03:03

Was told by a farmer here that he is paid by the government NOT to plant crops.....perhaps if they actually didn't give a tax incentive not to plant, the price of corn (just one example among many) wouldn't be so high, and be raisinjg the price for beef? I don't know, just a thought. I will be happy to one day see a new form of energy to be used. Perhaps hydrogen. I've not researched it enough to have a real definite opinion yet. Every choice that people make (buying/selling) affects our economy, and that includes (to a small degree) the purchase of dogs. Afterall, if (just throwing out a number) $4000 per dog for--let's just say 1000 dogs per year, that's suddenly $4 million that could have been spent in the US. Not that I am saying we should all buy within the US, I'm just making a point. Last point---ethanol STINKS. Literally. LOL I hope they do not put up a plant near you, Birdy. Yuck!

DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 10 March 2007 - 03:03

The Fed Ag Dept. has a program called something like CRC or CCR not sure. Purpose is that if you plant crops (especially the same type) year after year you deplete the soil and it gets where crops won't grow well or even at all. So the farmer has land that he puts in the CCR for about 10 years and he gets paid. Once the ten years(I think it is 10) is up the soil is re-newed and very fertile. Over the ten years he still has to plant native grass and keep it mowed so we don;t have dust blowing. This keeps food on our tables year after year and prices low as we don't usually have shortages.

Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 10 March 2007 - 04:03

I think doggie1 hit the nail on the head, I'm so tired of busting my butt to fall a little further behind every month...my friends kids coming home in boxes or all buggered up, either physically or mentally. One of my colleages is set to go over there with the guard,& her husband may be deployed as well, they were going to buy a puppy from Shelley, but not if they don't know what thier personal future is, it wouldn't be responcible! I think everyone is worried, either about the price of gas, what the value of thier home is, wiil they have a job next week, etc., so no one is thinking about big, expensive purchases that they don't really need...now for myself, the dogs are my escape...when life really sucks, my dogs are my refuge....and as far as the cost, when I've got it, so do they, when times are tough, they come first, & we all hunker down together(makes my husband jealous lol)But we've all been hunkered down, as a nation for a long time now, & we need someone to hold a light at the end of the tunnel for us...I don't see any really promising candidates....jo

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 10 March 2007 - 05:03

Lets all vote Hillary 2008, bring all our Soldiers home, have a Civil War and hope Communism is a Party afterwards. LOL





 


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