"I'm Not looking for a showdog" - Page 7

Doug Deacon won the North Americans about 15 years with a bitch named Sbeba that he picked up at the pound and trained in Vancouver.

You can find good non purebreds but to produce a consistent trait you have to stick with purebreds knowing the traits common to any certain breed.

I agree with Blitzen completely! (for once ;) I have seen a lot of rescue dogs who were extremely good in the work. In fact German Shepherd Rescue of New England has placed a lot of rescue dogs with law enforcement. (go to www.GSDRNE.org.) There are always GSD's on Petfinder.com that anyone with more than a basic knowledge of the breed can tell have excellent bloodlines and upon further investigation we learn that the dogs have all the drives we look for in out working dogs, which is likely who/why they ended up where they are! When I get the kennel space I have every intention of rescuing dogs to train for detection work, among other things, for donation to local law enforcement agencies. Its a win-win situation in my book. Dog gets a good home and a job it loves, cops get a valuable asset they might not otherwise be able to afford, I sleep well knowing I have given something back to the breed I love and the community I live in. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of micro-chipping all those hard, hard HARD, high-drive dogs that you produce and then sell to inexperienced pet homes. Take a little stroll down Petfinder Lane and then tell me you are positive that every working puppy you produce will never spend more than the time it takes to scan the micro-chip and call YOU to bail it out and take it HOME... in a shelter. If you can, my hat's off to you. If you CAN'T, its time to either step up to the plate and take more responsibility or stop breeding dogs. Spook- The more I read from you, the more I am convinced your are a heartless idiot, completely devoid of social graces, and that if you put everything you know in a thimble, there would still be plenty of room for your favorite finger. Am I being too subtle here??? ;-D SS

See you in August, Veronica. LOL, be careful what you wish for. Hodie is taking a break; she's very busy right now.

I typically DO NOT do this..because I hate dealing with ignorant people and having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.... Spook - Merlin (the dog from my previous post on this subject from the pound) was obviously a well bred dog, well trained to do SchH work, trained in German at that, that someone just "dumped"!!! No, we did not know his pedigree, never really looked into it. But this dog was xrayed, with perfect hips, very sound temperment, correct structure, etc....AND DUMPED AT A POUND!!! I know this was probably one in a million chance to find such a dog at a pound...but IT HAPPENED!!! So for you to say that somone will NEVER find a well-bred, quality dog at a pound is what is so ignorant! Tunnel vision???? Those who live in glass houses, should not throw stones!

I guess there is a certain level of comfort and even arrogance in telling one's self that well bred, expensive dogs will never end up in rescue. In theory it seems prudent to assume that a person paying big bucks for a dog is not going to dump it somewhere. The reality is that to some, the price paid for the dog doesn't matter; when the dog has to go, the dog has to go and some don't really care how, when or where. The proof is on the net for all to see and there have been several testimonials from those who have obtained good dogs from shelters or who know those who did. Thinking that all GSD's sitting in rescues are junkyard dogs might be feel good reasoning, but it is not factual. Frankly, I wish it were.

Yes, good dogs, nice dogs, quality dogs, whatever you want to call them end up in rescue. (By the way folks there is a big difference between a breed rescue and a pound or Humane Society type rescue.) You will always have morons buying dogs to show off; you will always have some breeders that don't give a snot as long as they can move dogs. Some of them are on this site. But to infer that all you have to do is go to the pound and pick up a quality dog is misleading and disingenuous. (It's not that I don't believe there are breeders that produce a quality of dog that could be beat by a dog out of the pound, but those are not quality dogs.) There are people in rescue that recognize quality dogs when they come in and get them into good homes. This is hardly true in a pound or mixed or all breed situation. Shelly, get bent. I'll match my knowledge with yours anytime, except in the show ring. Just being honest. How's that for social grace?

I agree, Spook, you have a much better chance of finding a good dog of any breed at a breed rescue for obvious reasons. Good point.

"to imply you can find a high quality dog by simply going to 'RESCUE' facility is ludicrous. You or someone else may have found a quality GSD in the pound, but it's a one in a million chance. Besides, all these breeders on this site do extensive follow up on their dogs." Self response: "You will always have morons buying dogs to show off; you will always have some breeders that don't give a snot as long as they can move dogs." Next: "YOU DO NOT GET QUALITY DOGS FROM A 'RESCUE'. THAT MY SLOW FRIEND, IS THE GIST OF MY POST. TO IMPLY ANYTHING ELSE IS ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY." Self response: "Yes, good dogs, nice dogs, quality dogs, whatever you want to call them end up in rescue. (By the way folks there is a big difference between a breed 'RESCUE' and a pound or Humane Society type rescue.)" Sounds like two different press conferences by John Kerry. Flip/flop, flip/flop. Many here have answered your question to me, including realcold, I could go on, but why. You can lead the dog to the water bowl, but you can't make it drink. No matter how much you paid for it or who bred it. Ya lost dude. Live with it :)

"You can lead the dog to the water bowl, but you can't make it drink. No matter how much you paid for it or who bred it." DRFNO In Psychology/Behavior Modification, the response to this statement is: "No, but you CAN make it very very thirsty." ;-)