IPO Training Order - Page 5

Pedigree Database

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

susie

by susie on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Why don´t you just answer my questions? I am a novice in StPr...
The articles you mention just show that dogs have a far better nose than humans, and that scents are able to connect to items ( water included ). That´s chemistry, and I had to learn this for 6 years ?!?
Do you want to know about the equation?

momosgarage

by momosgarage on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

@susie, Which question?


susie

by susie on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Reread my posts...

by Bavarian Wagon on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Training method and dog’s ability once they’re taught a method has very little to do with why people don’t do other sports once they retire a dog from IPO. The biggest reason they don’t do other sports is that they’re probably doing IPO with another dog and aren’t working the first dog in anything. 95% of people I know dislike tracking, so even if they did get through an IPO3, the last thing they’ll be doing is an FH. If you’re breeding/studding, the FH means nothing in the grand scheme of things and so most people aren’t going to be putting in the extra work to get that title when it won’t get them any extra return. And again, if you have another dog you’re working, you’re not doing FH tracking with the first one.

After changing the content of your post I’m really confused as to how you don’t see how hypocritical you’re being. You admitted that you CHOOSE to train a different method. You’ve accepted it won’t get you V scores in IPO, and so you move on and do what you CHOOSE to do. So what’s the problem? My first post was also not speaking of you in particular, but just people like you in general. You CHOOSE to do another way of tracking, then bash the way others CHOOSE to train their dogs. You’re kidding yourself if you think that someone who has the ability to train a dog to V tracking scores at a high IPO level couldn’t switch methods and train a dog to do a different “more realistic” method. They focus on IPO style because that’s what the sport calls for and that’s where they’re focused. Walking around and claiming that your dog can find a bomb or drugs while it’s failing IPO1 tracks trial after trial isn’t going to change what and how IPO tracking is judged.

It’s also no skin off my back how anyone new chooses to train their dog. If they’re not training with me it really doesn’t matter what they do. But most people have to get over the idea that training an IPO dog means training a K9…it’s not the same thing. The only people I see arguing that point are usually the ones that fail at IPO and need a reason to convince others why their dogs are better than the national level IPO dogs. The “my dog is real” crowd.

momosgarage

by momosgarage on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

How the dog can differentiate between skin rafts? I explained how it works when its time based.

Koots

by Koots on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Who said that training scent work and also footstep tracking has to be mutually-exclusive? If a person is smart about the training and foundation, both could be done. Different commands, different "gear" on the dog, different teaching/training scenarios all enable the dog to figure out the objective. It is only us humans who put limits on the dogs and what we can/could train them - granted the dog has the talent/desire/drive necessary.

susie

by susie on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Time based? Take a look at the StPr trial rules, take a look at the video...
I asked several questions - either you are not willing to answer or you are not able to answer-doesn´t matter.
I am out of it - thanks again, Bav.

Koots

by Koots on 23 March 2016 - 19:03

Getting back to the original question posed by the OP...

I'm not sure what you mean, but when I train I do not do so in a "pattern". The only consistent thing I do is at the end of a "formal" training session is the send-out. This is because the send-out is the last obedience exercise of "B" phase (except for long down if you go first in the trial pairs), and it is the one in which we ask the dog to "disengage" from handler temporarily and "take off". The rest of the obedience exercises we do in no particular order when training, so that the dog has to listen to each command and not anticipate.

susie

by susie on 23 March 2016 - 20:03

Koots, you are right - we lost the main idea of the initial question.
OP, are you still reading? I really apologize...





 


Contact information  Disclaimer  Privacy Statement  Copyright Information  Terms of Service  Cookie policy  ↑ Back to top