not right kennel?? - Page 26

I kinda think that bringing this to the well loved/staffed/educated and ever so impartial PDB was a very good thing. A wonderful reminder to myself that if I can not afford to "loose" some money, I don't need to play. It never ends well. They are animals for Christ sake! Anything can and will happen. I am also thrilled to see that personal responsibility is still as elusive as ever.

ACE, NO MORE THAN YOU GREAT FRIEND POSTING HIS BROOD DOGS AND MOST OF WHAT HE SALES AS 'HIPS IN ORDER'
HE HAS SOLD DOGS WITH DM SOFT EARS ETC FOR SO LONG THE WORD IS GETTING OUT THERE.
I CALL A SPADE A SPADE AS I SEE IT. IF I CALL HIM OR ANYONE A LIER ,THEY ARE JUST THAT AND ANYTHING ELSE I MIGHT ADD.
YOU KEEP HARPING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE FOREVER OVER.
  LESSON FOR YOU MR. NOVICE. ANYONE THAT DISCARDS AN EXCELLENT FEMALE, THAT BY THE WAY HAS NEVER THROWN A BAD HIP,IS STUPID.
  YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ALL THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ON HANS FORUM.
ALSO JERI AT THYE SEMINAR TALKED ABOUT SOFT EARS AND DEFECTIVE EARS AS BEING FOR THE MOST PART GENETIC OR DID YOU HAVE YOUR NOSE SO FAR UP HANS ASS THAT YOU DID'T HEAR.
ANYWAY I ONLY HAVE 2 PUPS AND 3 ADULTS TO SALE AND I WILL LET THE BIG BOYS RAPE THE NOVICES LIKE YOU.

I WILL STICK AROUND AND PUT MY 2 CENTS IN WHEN A DOG IS PROMOTED BY CERTAIN KENNELS.
THIS IS TRUELY MY LAST POST AS I HAVE MORE TO DO WITH MYSELF THAN DEFEND MY WAY OF THINKING WHEN I PURCHASED THIS PUP.

JENN, ARE YOU ASHAMED THAT YOU HAVE BRED THAT POOR BITCH 4 TIMES BACK TO BACK WITH NO REST. IS THIS BECAUSE HANS TOLD YOU THAT?
ALSO HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BRED THAT BLACK STUD DOG WITH THE BAD HIPS?
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. YOU WILL PROBABLY CAST THIS ASIDE AS YOU DO EVERTHING PERTAINING TO YOU.
HAVE A TERRIBLE DAY.

LMAO!!!

I just happened to pop in here at just the right time.  4x back to back, eh? Gee, you busted me. ROFL 

Not sure what stud dog w/bad hips you're referring to. I don't own any dogs w/bad hips. I don't own any stud dogs. I do have one dog w/out xrays, but no bad hips that I know of. And if I did, I certainly wouldn't BALDFACED LIE ABOUT IT ON MY WEBSITE and I certainly wouldn't breed them!

Ibrahim says I can't torture you anymore, so I won't. People like you will screw themselves and karma's a bitch, so I'm not worried. You'll get yours. Have a wonderful day, Wade. I truly wish you well and I hope your health improves to a point where you realize just how crazy you sound and can repent (again) and people will forgive you.

Weak ears and low drive dogs should not be bred cannot be bred in Europe that is why this one was shipped to the good old US at Wades expense. Wade wanted a dog suitable for breeding he did not receive a breeding quality dog no matter what kennel bred him.For those that stated to place him as a prospect for a LEO no way will this pup make a dog for Law Enforcement he will make a nice pet a very expensive companion dog.I have heard first hand from others that have purchased through the same agent/broker used dog salesman as you have and know and agree with the problems that you stated and more. Most without a replacement or refunds. I can say this the people that did get dogs replaced either live in Europe or contacted a attorney. Some of these people are very vocal some people do not want talk about their poor dealings with this broker /breeder dog salesman. Maybe the poster Ace or another poster that thinks he is all that will purchase him for the considerable expense that you have paid maybe this broker breeder will refund them when his ear does not stand properly after 2 years and he cannot work after 2 years if they think he will make a great dog ? So wade i hope you get service from this broker/ kennel. If not donate the dog to SAR group assistance dog and write him off or place him with a family member. He should make a great family dog just a pricey one.

Um, bad hips?  I have seen all of Jennifer's adult dogs in person and watched her male do a virtually vertical jump onto a picnic table with no problem at all and run in a normal gait like crazy playing AT AGE 7.  If that is bad hips, we all need to have them.  He is a truly magnificent dog physically and with regard to temperment.  I mean magnificent.

Both he and Capri are in phenominal shape and not one grey hair on the male, not one.  Her female, Capri, who, I saw when I picked up my pup from her, was in amazing shape as well, better than I have ever seen any other female dog that had given birth a few months earlier.  

With regard to lineage, I too do not understand when you know the sire and dam, what the name should have to do with anything unless all you care about is resale, crap or not.

by sable59 on 03 September 2011 - 17:09	sable59 Posts: 257 Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 02:16 am
LESSON FOR YOU MR. NOVICE. ANYONE THAT DISCARDS AN EXCELLENT FEMALE, THAT BY THE WAY HAS NEVER THROWN A BAD HIP,IS STUPID.

Wade,

By saying this, you fully know & admit that you are lieing on your website by misrepresenting Perla.  You say she has good hips while OFA officially list them as "MILD" on their website.  You are about European breeders being liars and all and here you admit to false advertisement.  I wonder how many people you sold pups to out of her KNOW that she has Mild HD.  Sad part is you don't deny it nor do you even try and change it on your site.  Good thing you are getting out of the dog business.   Last thing we need is another liar as a breeder flat out lieing about their dogs, especially their "foundation bitch".

You haven't seen a bad hip out of Perla b/c there are no hip scores done on the progeny!!!  There are none on the 7 progeny listed here on PDB.

Today I saw the emails that you sent Hans and it is funny how what you say on here isn't how it was in your emails.  So so different.

Ace, it's apparent that Wade isn't truly interested in any reasonable disussion. He continues to launch poorly-planned (ie, false and baseless) personal attacks instead of actually answering the question you asked him (whether or not he knowingly LIED about Perla's hip status on his website to sell pups) and try to divert attention away from his own lies and misdeeds. Personally, I couldn't care less about Perla's hips and looked at her xrays myself...they don't look terrible to me. However, lying is the point and lying is what he's accused Hans and Jiri of, and while there is no evidence to support that anyone actually lied to him directly (perhaps by omission, though imo, not intentional), there is plenty of evidence of Wade himself flat-out lying.

Hunger, I thank you for your nice words about my dogs, but I really don't think Wade himself even believes any differently about them; he's just trying to create a diversion and take petty shots at me because people agreed that he was making a mountain out of a molehill.  A basic mathematical understanding of the canine estrus cycle disproves his allegations, and if you don't understand that, then you can check the ages of her progeny and see that she has never even had 2 litters back to back, let alone 4. I'm not saying that breeding a bitch back to back is bad; the timing has just never worked for me and it's never been done w/her. I do have one point in which you're mistaken....hate to have you accused of a lie....just this morning I looked on the very inside of Caleb's ear and I found a few white hairs. It seems he doesn't have a portrait stored away as I was beginning to think he did! LOL. I had to laugh at "magnificent" though; my grandma always called him "that magnificent creature" and used to bore everyone else in the family with Caleb stories. Someone would tell a story about their kids and she'd cut them off w/a Caleb story. Not everyone was so fond of him, LOL!

Anyway, my point in posting was to say, Ace (and everyone), we are in a deadlock; we are no farther along now than we were on the first page. Once it became clear that reason wasn't going to work, we should've quit. It's all wasted energy, and now there are pages upon pages of it as evidence. I think we're really beating a dead horse now. You cannot force personal responsibility on someone. I think it's time to wash our hands of it.

As far as I know Jenni does not produce many puppies compared to other breeders, I for one would be proud and happy to own one of her puppies especially if Capri is the mother. The only thing I wouldn't be happy with Jenni connected is be her opponent in a hot debate, her guns are heavy, lol.

Ibrahim