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by destiny4u on 03 February 2012 - 01:02
i like dogs high defense high civil aggression but i want high prey drive also i dont understand why someone wouldnt want high prey drive or what that would have to do with protecting? to me high prey drive or ball drive helps you control your own dog, if the dog has good defense and strong aggression its going help with the protection the prey drive is for the training. Gives the dog an outlet?
ALso the prey drive is for the exercising how are you going to burn out and keep your high energy dog with lots of aggression happy with no prey drive? LIke i dont know about your dogs its just if my dog doesnt get her ball play she can be a real tempermental BITCH!! I dont know if i am right here but to me prey drive just helps make a better pet and helps with training. Mine will control her prey drive around cats and family pets. I didnt think a dog having good prey drive or ball drive will sacrafice its defense or aggression. Training my dog was really easy and a lot of fun.
by mfh27 on 03 February 2012 - 01:02
by GSDPACK on 03 February 2012 - 01:02
the dogs you saw on the vids were probably Orin's progeny. I have had good luck with the puppies so far, they are turning out pretty versatile, stable and with nice work ethics and drives to show for.
by Chaz Reinhold on 03 February 2012 - 02:02
by duke1965 on 03 February 2012 - 08:02
and destiny , you should listen to that trainer more , when he said :
a pp trainer told me the thing with a good civil dog to work on is the out command because getting a good dog to bite is the easy part
he was right on there
by destiny4u on 03 February 2012 - 10:02
by Bob McKown on 03 February 2012 - 13:02
We all have our own idea,s of what bonding means and how we live with our dogs. I,ve seen breeds of dogs protect people and children that would amaze you for no other reason or training involvement then they belong to one another.
If your dog lives in kennels and gets to see you on occasion or at your convenience or at training then I can understand. My dogs live with me as part of my family I can look at the dog from across the yard and tell you exactley what he is going to do and why just by his face expression and vise a versa. they sleep with me eat with me go every where with me. I choose to live with my dogs not just own them. There is a big difference and how the dog reacts to any situation also is effected by that relationship.
I don,t own my dogs,there not an object like a shovel or a broom or my favorite coffe cup or shoes they live in my house and in my life they are part of life with me that is the bond I have with the dog and i,m sure many understand and agree. Does a dog have to live in my type of enviroment to be protective? aboslutley not, does it have a positive or negitve effect on the subject at hand? in my opinion most definetly.
by Gustav on 03 February 2012 - 13:02
by Kalibeck on 03 February 2012 - 13:02
by darylehret on 03 February 2012 - 14:02
Slamdunc is describing the type of dog that will protect and serve with extensive training. Duke is describing a dog who will protect naturally with minimal training. Both types can be effective in police service work....but I think Duke's type is closer to the recipe for a dog to naturally protect its owner.
You mean to tell me the one withOUT extensive training is more natural? (chuckle)
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