BIG heads, super dark sables, super hips. That is the problem - Page 7

Here is an interesting point relating to Pragers hips statement.

Yago von der Belferlein (zw67) and Kway om Posthorn (zw67) are both sons of Asko von der Lutter. (V BSP & WUSV)

Look back a few generations in the father line at Olf (noch zugelassen) & Anka (fast normal) also Benny and Roma.

If those dogs were never bred some good producers of today would not be here.

(not to mention Jeck vom Noricum and many others)

Lee

As far as big heads go, masculine heads on females have been discussed a number of times, proudly.  I've been confused by some of the posts as many have been happy with this type of head on their females and breed for it.  Some of these are the same who will be the first to tell someone else that they should breed to the standard.  I was always understood that the female should have a distinctly feminine appearance and you should be able to tell just from looking at their face, if they're male or female.  I understand, same as anyting else, that there will be exceptions, but why breed bitches with doggie heads to carry on a trait that is not to standard?  I will add that I would rather see a masculine head on a female than a feminine head on a male, but neither should be acceptable as a desirable trait.  If you like a male head, get a male.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

GSDt, if you stick around long enough, and watch this breed and others, you'll soon learn the latest fad in the breed ring will trump the standard every time. That's how we got the roach back, and American line dogs that trot on their hocks and have really effeminante, snipey heads!

Sometimes the standard will be altered to more closely match the dogs that are getting the ribbons. For instance, until not too long ago, the American standard called for a LEVEL back!!    Not a STRAIGHT back, a level back!

There probably hasn't been a level-backed GSD in the American show ring since the late 1960s!

I don't go with dogs for color, but I've been blessed with some lovely ones

This is Dodge who passed away a year ago:((((
[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r29/Jynx2007/Dodge2.jpg[/IMG]


And this is my new girl who just happens to be sable, her brains are what count tho:)))
[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r29/Jynx2007/DSCN0012.jpg[/IMG]

Diane

Ok, I guess I did something wrong, sorry to waste space:(((

Here you go.......

Diane's New Girl.....




and Dodge (for Diane)



Interesting that quite a few of the dogs with very nice (but not too big) heads posted here are related.
--Mary

Jakoda, what Mary did was copy the URL of your picture (the section between [IMG] and [/IMG] ) then click on the mountain and sun icon in the taskbar above the 'Post Reply' box. She then pasted the URL in the box that pops up.

That's the easy was to post a picture here. You can also post one off your hard drive, but that's more complicated.

Very nice looking dogs, with good, dark pigment! 

gagsd4, she's beautiful and the head is distinctly feminie!  Very nice, congrats.

OK......I'm probably going to be executed for this...but here's my personal preference.
I love the black sable color. I love the black colored dogs AND a rich bi-color as well.  I also love black & red dogs.
(All above colors mentioned are only my preference in color).....nothing more.
I love strong head pieces, strong bone & substance & strong health genetics.....and to wrap it all up in a perfect package....STRONG CHARACTER.
If I have to spend the rest of my life, with that "goal" in mind.......so be it.
To buy any dog for any ONE specific trait....color, head piece, structure, health...etc......is being "blind".
We all have a "preference" in type...nothing wrong with that....but it should never be  the absolute deciding factor in breeding.......One's "preference" may not always be what's correct.  We argue that same topic continuously on this board.
JMO
Robin

GSDtravels-- the two posted directly above are not mine.... just posted for someone else.

These are mine, 3 litter brothers. Photos between 6 and 8 months old....