News Update of WHAT HAPPENED TO Athos vom haus Sevens and Vinetta von Karthago. Are they alive? - Page 33

YR said, "The website of hers was on here , and OLI made this scammer a   MODERATOR?]"

A couple of points here. Oli did not know she was a scammer. Oli was fooled as all of you were. Almost every single person on this thread was fooled by Vickie at some point and that is a fact.

The other point is, Vickie does care, she has tried every trick in the book to get back in PDB. She wants back so bad she went to Oli with a big lie and tried to get him to let her back, so make no mistake she wants back bad. Matter of fact if she could think of a way she would be here right now. All she can do is read here and it bothers her bad.

Just wanted to clear these things up as people tend to say things they really have no clue about.

 CORRECTION  GSD MOD;

     THE CARE  i speak of is not the CARE of honest , loving, faithful and business people on this db that have worked a lifetime to do business in the correct and honorable way.

     MY  STATEMENT  stands alone...OF course , it meant the same thing you just wrote...

      OLI  got CONNED too..  THAT WAS MY POINT>>>>>

       NEED I REPEAT IT?

       VICKIE DOESN"T  CARE WHAT  any of us feel or DOES she CARE ABOUT doing anything
        to RIGHT any WRONG she has done.

        DO NOT try to negate my post.
        YOU nor anyone not working on this, KNOWS the hate that has been shown by VICKIE

         NOTHING else needs to be made plainer.   THAT statement covers it all
         HATE cannot be taken back.
         OBVIOUSLY all here know what OLI did and ALL have been here long enough to know
          the word CARE to all of us  , does not mean the same as the word  CARE means to
          the person named VICKIE of POWERHAUS>

         CARING about  posting on here is the lesser of two evils she wants to do.

        YR

Yep, still one pathetic mess. Who cares if she gets a laugh or two because she pulled the wool over so many eyes? They are wide open, now. That's all she's got, and according to YR, Vickie is laughing the laugh of a desperate criminal who will be found and made accountable. Reminds me of how we eventually found Saddam, reduced to hiding in a filthy hole. She's hiding out in her own filthy hole but you know, and I know it won't be forever. Will it be in time to save Sam from suffering as Hessle ? Will other breeders, especially the opportunistic ones care to keep their dogs out of her future hands? Will this story impress on others that if someone can't pay the price in full when they take possession, then the transaction probably should not happen. And if you have to give away dogs so people will breed them to pay you off, that is just bad business. I'll likely take some flack for that, but think about it, so much suffering has happened because the wrong person, a professional scammer, was given a trust they never deserved by so many of us.

i do pray bhall that the hard work everyone is doing will soon get your dog back i truely feel she should never have another dog again and lets make it known and keep it up as warnings to people on the database. so the same circle dosent keep happening name calling is childish and gets you nowhere but ruffleing people up noone knew anything about this woman and people can play games all day and lie through their teeth and they can be extreemly convinceing. so lets stop kicking eachother please ok shit happens.... the only thing you can do is pick up your peices and start walking forward again if u sit and churn around the same spot  Nothing will come of it. its like you find out your pregnant or you gf is insted of kicking your self and all the ugh saying it better be damn i need to start buying diapers. so pull up your big kid pants on guys and stop calling names start walking forward and wait to see what is going to happen if you arnt one of the partys whos dogs where in there or are directly involved just wait a wile and see whats going to happen not jumping up like a tard shouting at people and calling names when the hole situation has nothing to do with you... no i am not involved in this situation i have offered to help in any way i can alredy and am just waiting and praying for a good outcome which is all that can be done. the peta is who made schh so just any shepherd relly can title even labs can title lets call them and make it so poodles and yorkies can title aswell. there is my rant. and good luck to all partys envolved.

YR, I see your point but it's true that nearly everyone was conned by her. I'm just an uppity bitch and I always thought she was pathetic, crass, garden-variety white trash who repulsed me completely, and when I told her the best thing she could do for Bhall was to stay away from her (this was during the Voodoo debacle), she flipped out and threatened me, posting my "personal" (LOL- it was all on my website anyway) information. I bring this up only to make the point that she has shown her true colors here many a time, but things get deleted and the vast majority never knows about it. This is why it's important to leave some of this up to keep it searchable, so LET'S KEEP IT CIVIL SO IT CAN STAY UP!!! ONLY VICKIE WINS WHEN IT GETS DELETED FOR BICKERING!

Y.R
The person you speak of i never did suck up to her as you suggest some males did but i was not one of them in fact she called me that 'Awful Man From Belgium', probably a bit stronger but i am not going to look it up to see, However regarding these two Women you refer to, DID they not sell there Dogs in the first place and how on earth did they not know what this Vickie was like, By God i live in another country and i can see what she is so how Bhall could not is beyond me.
NO' i say and tell it as i see it and the truth is they wanted to sell the Dogs but it looks like they have not been fully paid for them.
Whose fault is that the lure of money made them do it there can be no other reason, NO one in there right mind would part with there dogs without having the Cash in the Bank first and the amount gone through into there account. Jeff Oehlsen said it right in his above post Selling the Dogs without full payment,
But the thing that gets to me most of all with these two Women is that they profess to Love there Dogs but they can still sell them without getting full payment for them Yes, that is real caring owners ill be damned if they are not, That to me is inexcusable and for such people i have no time for at all,
However some of you ladies cannot see the wood for the trees, surely some can read what has gone on to even anyone should dream selling there dogs to this Vickie person makes the stomach churn yet you are going along with them,
The Secret Service on hear can carry on with there ploy i will have nothing to do with stuff that is not in the open For it makes no difference at all if a Lawyer has been consulted then the perpetrator will be informed so to keep such things secret is pointless, it is like being sworn in to a pact the way children play those games are not for me or most on here i can bet.
Steve1

how on earth did they not know what this Vickie was like, By God i live in another country and i can see what she is so how Bhall could not is beyond me.
 
Maybe inform me about who is bad and who is not.  I always hear Bhall out of your mouth.  I am not the only one that was fooled by her.... 

Like I always say.... Ich habe kein bock mich mit dir zu unterhalten.

I was fooled by her. But it'll never happen again.

  BHall:  Probably wasted a perfectly good statement on mostly non-German-speaking folks. 


Steve1:   At no time has anyone ever claimed that I was stupid.  Frankly, I have an IQ that precludes that.   I also have  a mother who had a nasty, suspcious mind...and it was hereditary!    Yet and still,   I was not aware of Vickie's true nature at all!        My bs-detector didn't go off, until she claimed she was getting out of dogs because her marriage had suddenly fallen apart (or whatever) and she was selling off the dogs.  Then, she came back (too soon???). It was not until this very thread that I started to get the full picture.
   Now, maybe you picked up on something  in a thread I didn't read--I actually only read a small percentage of the threads on this site.   At any rate, I certainly was/am surprised by this entire Vickie situation.