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Brittany

by Brittany on 19 December 2004 - 23:12

Since stud services can be quite expensive theses days I was wondering for all you stud owners if you had customers requesting videos/ pictures of the mating process between the stud of their choice and the female that their breeding to one of your males?

by RedDoggie on 20 December 2004 - 03:12

Common guys.........!!!!!!!! Show a little descency, and give your dogs a bit of privacy........ BOY OH BOY !!!!!!! What's this world coming to??!!!!!

Sue B

by Sue B on 20 December 2004 - 04:12

Britanny, at first I thought you meant video's of stud dog that owners of bitch were considering using for mating. Then I realised you meant the actual deed. Just like RedDoggie I actually thought is this some new type of porno gizmo, Boy, I think I've heard it all now, what next? Then considered you probably live in the USA and stud dog may be some days drive away. This correct? So you fly bitch to stud dog, bitch gets mated, you send stud fee, bitch is returned. Nine weeks later no pups, you only have stud dog owners word that dog did actually mate bitch but with video evidence you have visual proof. Is this your reasoning behind taking video of the event? If so, good point. Could save many thoughts of did he or didnt he, if bitch missed and/or is he or isnt he the sire if bitch takes. This practice would I believe more serve the interests of the stud dog owner, in the event a bitch sent for mating does miss. It saves his good name or a dog being maligned etc. However, as for this request coming from the owner of the bitch I have one main problem with this. If not totally trusting of reputation of owner of stud dog, why would you fly your beloved bitch over to him to take care of and do the mating in the first place? Saoa, just cannot imagine why bitches owner would want to take photo's of a mating he personally attended, that does sound a little perverted. I think I would have said no, or at least charged him double for the stud fee to pay for my embarrassment. Sue B

by Charlie Ivory on 20 December 2004 - 07:12

Acutally,it is not all that uncommon a thing.If the bitches owner is not there it could remove the slightest doubt if it does not take, that the the breeding did in fact take place.I only do it if requested by her owner.If a bitch does not take after the first breeding they are allowed a second try the next heat,if she misses twice they are out the stud fee.Some people do not take to kindly to walking away from $1000 very well.the proof is in the pictures.........

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 20 December 2004 - 07:12

Sue, you are absolutely right. Brittany, you make it sound like you don't trust stud dog owners. Let me tell you something. Stud dog owners have a lot of work. If females are shipped, they have to drive to the airport and pick them up. We had it happen that we had to wait for three hours to get a dog out, not to mention how it feels to wheel a strange dog around in a crate back to your vehicle. My own dog I could let out and know what to expect. Can't do that with a strange dog. Then, you feed this female and clean up after her. Some of them will have soiled into the crates. Luckily, we never had that problem but I heard from others that some females were filthy, flea- and worm-infested. A lot of female owners send their dogs way too early, it might take a whole week before they are receptive to breeding. Oh my, but the vet did a smear and said it was the right time! When everything is done, it is the stud dog owner's responsibility to put the female on the correct flight out to be shipped home. In our case with our new male, we wanted to start a new trend. If we know the female owner, or it is somebody with a breeders reputation, we don't charge this stud fee until the female is confirmed pregnant. We all know how terrible it is to be bound to that repeat breeding, and timing is not convenient, or another suitable female is not available, or we can't get off from work to make that trip, etc. Whatever the reason is, it is hard, and speaking about myself, there are at least 4 or 5 dogs where I still have a repeat breeding to do and never got around to it. So Brittany, to make a long story short. It is in our utmost interest to get these females bred and pregnant, because otherwise we don't get paid for all this trouble described above. And if this is not enough, there is always DNA testing, and if female stays empty, just maybe the next time , fly or drive over yourself and witness it. JMO, Chris

by Charlie Ivory on 20 December 2004 - 07:12

Chris, no offence,why in the world would you wait untill the bitch is confirmed ? They are paying for a service,the service has been provided I will do at least two ties 24hrs apart. I get my entire fee up front the day of the 1st breeding.And ground services are paid for by the bitches owner.I don't mean to sound like a jerk but you get nothing for nothing in this day and age,if I'm spending a total of 4-6 hrs in the airport receiving or shipping her back they are paying for it.My time is also money.I do offer them the use of another male on the next attempt if they like or they can stick with the original stud dog..... It matters not if it is someone on the other side of the world or my own brother right her in town...lol. I might reduce the amount of the fee but he is paying too......

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 20 December 2004 - 08:12

You are absolutely right, Charlie. Like I mentioned I do it for people I know and not if I have to drive and pick up from the airport. I was referring to friends who come over personally. The airport story and so on was in response to Brittany's post where I felt she made it sound that these stud dog owners are untruthful and are just out to make money. Talking about airports, how is the weather up in your neck of the woods? You are in Connecticut, aren't you? We are located in the metro area of Washington DC, shipped a female back home this late morning (she was bred to our male) with a connecting flight in Philadelphia, and now she is stuck there due to weather conditions. Might be there until late tomorrow afternoon, and nobody dares to take her out of the crate. They are all scared of dogs, especially GSDs, and that female is a sweetheart, great temperament. I feel so bad for the dog and the owner. And no, USAir had told us no problem to ship when we checked her in. It makes me so mad, I can't go to sleep. Chris

by Jantie on 20 December 2004 - 11:12

Did you guys/girls ever hear about DNA? You should read about it. Very interesting indeed. By the way. Did you take videos of how you got your wives pregnant? Might be usefull if you ever go to court for a divorce?! Would they prove you're the father? I don't think so! (Just a thought.)

by Diore on 23 December 2004 - 22:12

I was always told sending a photo of the mating to the female's owner was common. It just shows the mating took place.

by Alexis on 24 December 2004 - 01:12

What does this actually prove? That a breeding took place? Okay. Now, if a breeder is intent of ripping someone off, taking a picture is not going to be a stopper from that breeder doing just so. It has been stated on this website on many occasions about how a dog's coloring can look different when pictures are taken at different point in the day. A picture is a picture, it is not the dog. Depending on how a dog is posed and the angle a picture is taken from, one dog can look like three in three different photos. For those that happen to choose their stud dogs through photos or from quick glimpses at a show, who's to say the stud tied to their female in the picture they receive is the actual dog they picked? What if it's a brother, or a son, or even just another dog that looks almost identical to the other? What if the breeder takes pictures of all their breeding and not from good angles and happens to have a picture of a breeding with a female that may look like yours, but in fact is not. If you want to be 100% positive you female is bred, go with someone you trust 100%, or go with the female and be there when the breeding takes place. Pictures may not always be absulote proof 100% of the time.





 


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