GSD breed lose the word Alsatian ? - Page 10

Alsatian - represents its brtitish history. Yes it was founded in Germany but if you wanted it to be called its true name then you would say it in german wouldnt you Deutscher Schäferhund (german shepherd)

If you take the name Alsation away from the breed then you leave that name "alsation" for some mad breeder to take the chance to seperate the breed and call their dogs "Alsations" I can imagine it now "Direct decent from the german shepherd but due to different ideas for the breed we decided to rename our line(s) and seperate from the german shepherd - Alsation - country of origin, uk" A whole new mad breed but 100% german shepherd.

Do you really want to risk the breed seperating?

As i said in your other post.This has already been tried twice and both times has been dismissed by THE UK.KC.This breed originated in Germany and it is up to the german SV to decide whether or not they wish to seperate the breed in this country ....to GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG.....ALSATIAN.Carole Spelman

Abbey Normal.yes yu are rite BUT i dont think that the KC.will allow it to happen.with regards to CCs.yu could be rite about the breed losing them but i dont think the alsatianist  fraternity will be allocated them as their entries have been either on par or lower.a lot of the exhibitors who are being classed as Alsatianists are not very happy with a certain fraction of that side.it has been said on a thread on here that many are going to boycott Richmond after wot one of them slated the judging at another champ.show earlier in the year.i do not know wot reason it is re the low entry at shows,but  i would surmise its jointly financial and re the judge in question.,could even be the weather as i,ve given my female a rest for the past couple of months due to this damned hot weather.one has to ask is it worth showing if ones animal is not in good coat condition.hope it improves next year as i,m completely hooked on this game and gets withdrawal symptons.sad person hey.Carole Spelman.

The reason why many of us are boycotting Richmond is  like Border Union we know who is very likely to get the DCC Mr Brandon  this is because the Vice Chairman  of the UK is Judging so why should we waste  our money .Because  some  of us caused lets say ripples at the AGM  including me  i do believe we still  have freedom of speech in this country but not at the UK AGM's we are classed as trouble makers and do not have the best intrests of the  Breed or the UK Club at heart which is very wrong and yes we do  believe in this wonderful Breed .
 Linedancer

Yes i think it should loose that word, like everything else to do with the brittish and germans the reason i was told for them being called alsations was the war. people liked the dogs but it was unpatriotic to like the germans so what did they do? they re named the breed after a region on the french/german border to try and say they were french. its just war time PR madness. And in the spirit of moveing foward it must go..

Correct me if i am wrong thats just what i was told im neither british or german.

I still call them alsations sometimes because thats what my mum calles them and its a habbit i have picked up

Well said Linedancer absolutely bang on the button.

Yes a very large proportion of the so called "Alsatianist's" are not supporting any show where the judge has anything to do with certain individuals of the UK club, namely the Chairman, Vice Chairman, Acting secreatry and committee members, it has been the case recently at another Ch show in scotland where by it was already stated long before the show who would go BOB and go BOB he did, and because the judge on the day is a very good friend (so he thinks) of the BOB owner, it was a very poor entry for the same reason that have been mentioned.
People on the Alsatian side of the fence are sick and tired of the dicatorial stance of the UK club (in the present chairmans hands) and its so called committee( that by the way are not allowed to go against the chairman).
It will be very very very interesting to see the entries for South Yorkshire Alsatian Open show in August, as again people are not going to support this club for the same reasons, Richmond Ch show in sept and the UK club show in Nov.,
So yes there are "problems" on the Alsatian side, BIG PROBLEMS, and while a certain individual remains where he is then they will not support the club even if it means the club folding, CC's on offer or not.
The people i am talking about also have around 40 dogs between them that are shown. A lot of entries to lose, but lose them they will.

Shonnag said:

I do not wish to get involved in the debate, but the KC have written to the Alsatian training club of Bristol (ATCOB)a club that has been running for 47 years and asked if we would change our name to GSD. Two problems with the name change, firstly there is already a GSD of Bristol club and secondly all our team kit is embroidered with ATCOB so there is a not insignificant cost involved.

Suggestions on a postcard please.

If they are purely asking (as opposed to telling), then the easisest option is to take the said letter and bin it.............

Personally I do not see what all the fuss is about - as far as I am aware the name was started to be used, instead of German Shepherd, during the war and to move away from any connotation of the word German. Seems a whole load of fuss about triviality to me.