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by MR4166 on 24 December 2010 - 01:12
CHECK THEIR WEBSITE FOR DOGS 4 SALE THE 8MONTH OLD FEMALE THE HAVE FOR SALE IS OUT OF
SIRE: V - Tex vom Poxdorfer- Tannenhof DAM: V- Holly vom Roten Acker
http://www.vomhaushutfeld.com/adultsforsale.htm
THE PICTURE OF THAT DOG ON THEIR SITE IS FAKE FAKE FAKE
THE PICTURE THEY ARE USING IS NOT OF THEIR OWN DOG
THAT DOGS NAME IS Helge von HaiLin HERE'S HER LINK
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/628472.html
THEY DO NOT OWN THE FEMALE IN THE PICTURE PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHOW ONE DOG AND SHIP YOU ANOTHER DOG AND BY THE TIME YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY DID YOU ALREADY LOST YOUR MONEY.
THEY CREATE MISS TRUST BETWEEN ALL OF US. THEY GIVE ALL OF US A BAD NAME
YOU GUYS BE THE JUDGE CHECK THE LINKS OUT. AND DONT DEAL WITH THIS KENNEL AT ALL
SIRE: V - Tex vom Poxdorfer- Tannenhof DAM: V- Holly vom Roten Acker
http://www.vomhaushutfeld.com/adultsforsale.htm
THE PICTURE OF THAT DOG ON THEIR SITE IS FAKE FAKE FAKE
THE PICTURE THEY ARE USING IS NOT OF THEIR OWN DOG
THAT DOGS NAME IS Helge von HaiLin HERE'S HER LINK
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/628472.html
THEY DO NOT OWN THE FEMALE IN THE PICTURE PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHOW ONE DOG AND SHIP YOU ANOTHER DOG AND BY THE TIME YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY DID YOU ALREADY LOST YOUR MONEY.
THEY CREATE MISS TRUST BETWEEN ALL OF US. THEY GIVE ALL OF US A BAD NAME
YOU GUYS BE THE JUDGE CHECK THE LINKS OUT. AND DONT DEAL WITH THIS KENNEL AT ALL
by Seeker of Truth on 24 December 2010 - 01:12
It is the same dog for sure, very underhanded thing to do, 
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by sabbott on 24 December 2010 - 11:12
Be very careful with your accusations. This female, as I have been told is for sale from Karsten Luck in Germany (vom Roten Acker Kennel) She has been posted in efforts to assist him in Selling her. If there are any questions as to who this female really is, you need to contact him directly in Germany. This female has never been in the USA, nor is she coming to the USA.
I have owned and purchase a dog from Karsten Luck and did not have any reason to mistrust him.
Who are you to make such a judgement on us???
You are welcome to send me an email and I can give you his contact information, this should be directed toward him!
Your post is BOGUS!!!!
I have owned and purchase a dog from Karsten Luck and did not have any reason to mistrust him.
Who are you to make such a judgement on us???
You are welcome to send me an email and I can give you his contact information, this should be directed toward him!
Your post is BOGUS!!!!
by MR4166 on 24 December 2010 - 13:12
You’re a smart,cunning and a thief.
There is no accusation it’s the truth and you got caught in your lies, as you have stated that you were trying to help sell her then why did you take the ad of your website, secondly if she is not out of
SIRE: V - Tex vom Poxdorfer- Tannenhof DAM: V- Holly vom Roten Acker
Then why did you advertise her as such
Her parents are
Sire VA9 (CHN)2009 Belisar von Aurelius
Dam Canda von ShenYangJinXing
Now here comes the fun part your quick to point the finger at Karsten Luck. That’s nice you don’t need to provide me with the contact here it is karstenluck@t-online.de Phone 036840/81889
Tell you what as german shepherd lovers people on this forum have spent lots of their hard earned money on good dogs. we are emotional people. we are willing to spend the money on what we love but we are not stupid we trusting people and hate taken advantage off. So when someone like you vom Haus Hutfeld come along we have show the world your true face.
Fact
You miss lead people by using a picture of a dog with another’s dogs pedigree.
Fact
Your are guilty of that otherwise you would never delete the ad off your site
Fact
You tried to shift the blame to Karsten Luck. (I know they have this dog in the picture for sale but under her real pedigree)
Fact
If my post was bogus why did you delete the ad and right way response to the post.
Your head is probably spinning thinking shit how the hell did he/she figure out the picture and the pedigree was fake. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and as German shepherd lovers we have photogenic memories and never forget the dogs we like even if they are being sold under a fake Pedigrees)
Don’t do business with vom Haus Hutfeld
Wilton, New Hampshire
United States
There is no accusation it’s the truth and you got caught in your lies, as you have stated that you were trying to help sell her then why did you take the ad of your website, secondly if she is not out of
SIRE: V - Tex vom Poxdorfer- Tannenhof DAM: V- Holly vom Roten Acker
Then why did you advertise her as such
Her parents are
Sire VA9 (CHN)2009 Belisar von Aurelius
Dam Canda von ShenYangJinXing
Now here comes the fun part your quick to point the finger at Karsten Luck. That’s nice you don’t need to provide me with the contact here it is karstenluck@t-online.de Phone 036840/81889
Tell you what as german shepherd lovers people on this forum have spent lots of their hard earned money on good dogs. we are emotional people. we are willing to spend the money on what we love but we are not stupid we trusting people and hate taken advantage off. So when someone like you vom Haus Hutfeld come along we have show the world your true face.
Fact
You miss lead people by using a picture of a dog with another’s dogs pedigree.
Fact
Your are guilty of that otherwise you would never delete the ad off your site
Fact
You tried to shift the blame to Karsten Luck. (I know they have this dog in the picture for sale but under her real pedigree)
Fact
If my post was bogus why did you delete the ad and right way response to the post.
Your head is probably spinning thinking shit how the hell did he/she figure out the picture and the pedigree was fake. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and as German shepherd lovers we have photogenic memories and never forget the dogs we like even if they are being sold under a fake Pedigrees)
Don’t do business with vom Haus Hutfeld
Wilton, New Hampshire
United States
by SitasMom on 26 December 2010 - 23:12
so why does the moderator let this post stay - yet the other one (HansK9) be moderated?
i just don't understand why the bias
i just don't understand why the bias
by VonIsengard on 27 December 2010 - 00:12
Because this one has some kind of facts and the party accused is making a rebuttal, the other is based on hearsay and thirdhand information?
by TessJ10 on 27 December 2010 - 00:12
I don't think it's bias, I think it's taking time to figure out which side is lying, because this is a case of an accusation of false advertising, with the other side saying, no, that photo had every right to be on that website. So this thread has both sides and had been dead for 2 days until you bumped it up.
Maybe the whole thread should be deleted, I don't know. I for one want to know if someone is using pictures of dogs that aren't theirs, but I also want to know if that person did have permission to post that photo, I want to remember who is on here making false accusations.
To me, a concrete accusation of either faking photographs and here are the photos published, is a different thing from that other thread, which was a gossipy "I got a message about somebody and she says blah blah blah."
Maybe the whole thread should be deleted, I don't know. I for one want to know if someone is using pictures of dogs that aren't theirs, but I also want to know if that person did have permission to post that photo, I want to remember who is on here making false accusations.
To me, a concrete accusation of either faking photographs and here are the photos published, is a different thing from that other thread, which was a gossipy "I got a message about somebody and she says blah blah blah."
by TessJ10 on 27 December 2010 - 00:12
Lol, KCzaja, you said it exactly and posted it in a few words while I was struggling to try to explain it and being all verbose. 
Well done, and thank you.
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