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by Wildmoor on 19 July 2011 - 21:07
Just to inform everyone I have since had a public apology - AS is a BYB and the UKGSDR no longer support her - those on my FB will have seen the update
by PaulGSD2 on 20 July 2011 - 16:07
Just like to add my condolences to the poor lady who adopted a GSD from Katherine Simons who works for the German Shepherd Dog Rescue. What a terrible thing to happen, imagine rehoming a dog that is dog aggressive to a home with a resident dog. Well to cut a long story sort the rescue GSD attacked and killed the family pet. Imagine that happening in front of you, this would be your worse nightmare. And then the rescue to refuse to collect their rescue dog because, well frankly it can't happen again! This is real rescue madness. After reading all the posts above slandering the UK-GSR it does make you wonder how the UK leading and most experienced GSD rescue (their own words) can get it all so wrong. Email memo from their boss Jayne Shenstone showing concern "Keep this quite and leave the dog there". Unfortunately one co-coordinator didn't agree with brushing another PR nightmare under the matt and quit airing her views, this soon was following up with a threat of being sued by Shenstone. I believe Simons also did the assessment on this dog, makes you wonder how many other dogs this rescue has put at risk. Frankly I would be suing Shenstone for everything she is worth.
by Abby Normal on 20 July 2011 - 17:07
Paul,
This is a horrible story, but - I will say to you what I said to Charles. Provide the evidence. Copy of the email? Name of dog? When? If true I would guess that the family involved will certainly take it further, I know I would - if all the facts are actually as stated by you. Has it been reported in the local press?
What happened to the GSD - where is it now??
Having seen the evidence of how much you despise GSDR I would only be prepared to give this story any credence with hard evidence.
This is a horrible story, but - I will say to you what I said to Charles. Provide the evidence. Copy of the email? Name of dog? When? If true I would guess that the family involved will certainly take it further, I know I would - if all the facts are actually as stated by you. Has it been reported in the local press?
What happened to the GSD - where is it now??
Having seen the evidence of how much you despise GSDR I would only be prepared to give this story any credence with hard evidence.
by lidia on 20 July 2011 - 18:07
This unfortunate tale must have been a gift to you Paul was it?
Did you post on here before, or after you complained to the Charity Commission? which, of course, would have been the right route to have gone with a grievance about a registered Charity.
Did you post on here before, or after you complained to the Charity Commission? which, of course, would have been the right route to have gone with a grievance about a registered Charity.
by PaulGSD2 on 20 July 2011 - 18:07
Abbey that is a great idea to report it to the local press, I am sure it will find its way there, but not by me. I just wanted to point out that anybody can make a mistake, some just get reminded about it more than others.
>>lndia<< yes report for trading under the false trading names of UK German shepherd rescue & German shepherd rescue UK and misleading the public, since my complaint the GSDR have registered both trading names and so now Jayne Shenstone (GSDR) also operates under the name UK German Shepherd rescue, maybe just to add more confusion, but why I don't know??? She could of volunteered if she liked the UK-GSR so much.
>>lndia<< yes report for trading under the false trading names of UK German shepherd rescue & German shepherd rescue UK and misleading the public, since my complaint the GSDR have registered both trading names and so now Jayne Shenstone (GSDR) also operates under the name UK German Shepherd rescue, maybe just to add more confusion, but why I don't know??? She could of volunteered if she liked the UK-GSR so much.
by lidia on 20 July 2011 - 19:07
>>lndia<< yes report for trading under the false trading names of UK German shepherd rescue & German shepherd rescue UK and misleading the public, since my complaint the GSDR have registered both trading names and so now Jayne Shenstone (GSDR) also operates under the name UK German Shepherd rescue, maybe just to add more confusion, but why I don't know???
Not sure why you are surperised about the name changes. Its not like its the first time its happened.
When she resigned as Treasurer from Second Chances for GSD Rescue (a registered charity in Scotland) the same woman set up her own rescue using exactly the same name.
And I have some questions for Abby Normal: Is it true that, in a private message, Charles Pope provided you with names and phone numbers to back up some of the claims he made? Is it also true that, after all the shouting you have made for these things to be provided that you've not followed up that information? but have, instead, attempted to justify the situation? or is Charles lying to me as well?
Not sure why you are surperised about the name changes. Its not like its the first time its happened.
When she resigned as Treasurer from Second Chances for GSD Rescue (a registered charity in Scotland) the same woman set up her own rescue using exactly the same name.
And I have some questions for Abby Normal: Is it true that, in a private message, Charles Pope provided you with names and phone numbers to back up some of the claims he made? Is it also true that, after all the shouting you have made for these things to be provided that you've not followed up that information? but have, instead, attempted to justify the situation? or is Charles lying to me as well?
by Abby Normal on 20 July 2011 - 19:07
Paul
You've answered very little.......Copy of the email? Name of dog? When? Where is the said GSD now??
I just wanted to point out that anybody can make a mistake, some just get reminded about it more than others.
Oh come on.....
If all you say is true, why would you not report it to the press yourself? Why did the family whose dog it was not go to them, if all has happened as you say?
You obviously complained to the charities commission, so why stop at giving the press such a dreadful (but juicy for you) story?
All this 'secret squirrel' stuff is very, very tedious.
You've answered very little.......Copy of the email? Name of dog? When? Where is the said GSD now??
I just wanted to point out that anybody can make a mistake, some just get reminded about it more than others.
Oh come on.....
If all you say is true, why would you not report it to the press yourself? Why did the family whose dog it was not go to them, if all has happened as you say?
You obviously complained to the charities commission, so why stop at giving the press such a dreadful (but juicy for you) story?
All this 'secret squirrel' stuff is very, very tedious.
by PaulGSD2 on 20 July 2011 - 19:07
Abbey, the complaint was made only because of the GSDR was making itself appear as they where the UK German Shepherd rescue in Google search results, GSDR say the UK-GSR copy their rescue yet they confuse people using search engines, the real UK German shepherd rescue now uses the term UK-GSR to avoid further confrontation, no other complaints about the rescue was made. The recent incident has only just happened so I am watching the results unfold too, the dog is still in the home so would be unfair to name it at this point.
Don't get me wrong, I support the work of the GSDR and or at least the work of its volunteers, it would be a far greater rescue if its RSPCA activist owner stood down and stopped holding it back.
Don't get me wrong, I support the work of the GSDR and or at least the work of its volunteers, it would be a far greater rescue if its RSPCA activist owner stood down and stopped holding it back.
by Abby Normal on 20 July 2011 - 22:07
Good grief, this would be funny if it weren't so damned tragic.
2 rescues COMPETING with one another, worried about who comes out top in google rankings, jostling for 'the market' in rescue GSDs? Both rescues should get over themselves as far as I am concerned. You know, it doesn't matter a jot to most people who is the biggest, or best, or appears to be number one. What most people care about is that the dogs are rescued and rehomed. END OF.
When GSD UK or whatever you are calling yourselves now set yourselves up you chose a name that could not have been more similar to that of GSDR UK (as was). If you weren't trying to 'confuse' or mislead people by doing that, then I don't know how else you could explain such a mirror image name. Lets face it you could have called it Safe Haven GSD Rescue or ANYTHING, but you didn't, so I don't think you should be moaning about being confused with them now. Please save the b*ll*cks about supporting GSDR - how stupid do you think we are????
I really do think I have to be done with this, as it is becoming very tiresome and frankly is tarnishing the reputation of all rescues, which I find both depressing and demoralising. I think between you, you have damaged GSD rescue generally and in doing so have jeopardised the future of many rescue dogs. How bloody sad is that.
2 rescues COMPETING with one another, worried about who comes out top in google rankings, jostling for 'the market' in rescue GSDs? Both rescues should get over themselves as far as I am concerned. You know, it doesn't matter a jot to most people who is the biggest, or best, or appears to be number one. What most people care about is that the dogs are rescued and rehomed. END OF.
When GSD UK or whatever you are calling yourselves now set yourselves up you chose a name that could not have been more similar to that of GSDR UK (as was). If you weren't trying to 'confuse' or mislead people by doing that, then I don't know how else you could explain such a mirror image name. Lets face it you could have called it Safe Haven GSD Rescue or ANYTHING, but you didn't, so I don't think you should be moaning about being confused with them now. Please save the b*ll*cks about supporting GSDR - how stupid do you think we are????
I really do think I have to be done with this, as it is becoming very tiresome and frankly is tarnishing the reputation of all rescues, which I find both depressing and demoralising. I think between you, you have damaged GSD rescue generally and in doing so have jeopardised the future of many rescue dogs. How bloody sad is that.
by PaulGSD2 on 20 July 2011 - 22:07
Abbey you are clearly against the UK-GSR so no matter what is said your mind has already been made up, if the UK-GSR was called something else we would still be here today. Its not just the rescue name but simply being a GSD rescue. Seen these posts so many times, faceless brainwashed do-gooders hiding behind fake profiles slagging off the UK-GSR, at least people know me, dare you give your real name away and state what you do within the rescue.
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