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by Duderino on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
by Duderino on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
by Sunsilver on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
I find many breeders and competitors in the dog world are very short sighted. They know very little of the breed's origins, and seem to think that the way things are now are the way they have always been. When you show them pictures of what the dog breed used to look like, they shrug and say, "Yes, but what we have now is BETTER!"
Better? In what way? Does it allow the dog to do the job it was originally bred for much better? Or does it make the dog look better and more attractive as it prances around the ring?
Someone published an old show catalogue online a few years ago, dating from the beginning of the 20th century. What shocked me was not how different many of the breeds looked compared to today.
What shocked me was HOW MANY OF THE BREEDS IN THE CATALOGUE NO LONGER EXIST!
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
All dogs belong as pets if they have a choice.
My dogs are exercise and play companions.
Not a good life for them? Play and exercise not fun? Why is play and exercise not good times for a dog?
Do they need the challenge of protection?
No they don't actually need it.
It is a human centered fantasy that dogs need "work".
I may get involved with dog sport, but I will never have the zeal that a dog needs "work" to be happy.
You want a dog to do sport so that you can be happy, so that you can have the fun of it.
It is 100% OK for you to have fun with dog sport and it is not 100% OK to have a dog mainly for sport, but I hope you don't be conceited in believing the GSD is a breed has to do certain work of mostly presumed utility.
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
"I find many breeders and competitors in the dog world are very short sighted. They know very little of the breed's origins, and seem to think that the way things are now are the way they have always been. When you show them pictures of what the dog breed used to look like, they shrug and say, "Yes, but what we have now is BETTER!"
Better? In what way? Does it allow the dog to do the job it was originally bred for much better? Or does it make the dog look better and more attractive as it prances around the ring?
Someone published an old show catalogue online a few years ago, dating from the beginning of the 20th century. What shocked me was not how different many of the breeds looked compared to today.
What shocked me was HOW MANY OF THE BREEDS IN THE CATALOGUE NO LONGER EXIST!"
I think it is one grand fantasy that dogs today are kept based on breed origin and utility. But I am not shocked; it is not an outlandish fantasy, grand but not outlandish.
Today in America dogs are kept for companionship, for the most part. The type of dog, or breed or line within a breed, is chosen based the owners predilection and fancy. The utility of protection is one such fancy.
Technology has rendered most functions of the dog obsolete.
One day we will no longer need drug detection dogs, I tend to think.
But we will need SAR dogs for a long long time. In SAR, both the dog's noise and portability of its nose are important, but the fact that its life is percieve to worth less than a human life also is a part of the equation.
Dog protection beyond superficial intimidation is of minimal value in the USA today, with widespread firearms.
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
If you were a dog, would you rather be a pet in America or a feral dog in Africa?
Dogs must have jobs in some places I am sure. This is a fact that should be lamented, not the reality in America that dogs are mostly companion animals.
by ggturner on 13 October 2011 - 21:10
Wouldn't dream of it.
Certainly the SV cares very little about the current or future condition of the breed and hiding your head in the sand does nothing. The first step towards correcting a problem is admitting you have one.
I'm not a breeder, but I agree that there are too many gsd breeders out there who are harming the breed. The same thing happens to many breeds. Very sad.
Still would like to see if there are any valid stats on mals vs gsds in LE and the military.
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
Ok Ok
I have the GPD, the German primordial dog.
You have the GWD, the German Working dog.
Who has the GSD?
You don't have the GSD, I believe. Do you do much S in the GSD?
Why do people get so upset over a name?
What is so upsetting about field Lab and the show lab, or the working line GSD and the showline GSD?
I have to say the the mindset of some people are very perplexing. Some people are very stubbord and opinionated.
by Duderino on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M72LEwMx8H0&feature=related
by ggturner on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
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