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by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
"To me you represent what is ruining the foundation of America,,,,,,selfishness. Maybe you should talk to the Border Patrol agents who work the Mexican border and see what they think about the idea that we will no longer need drug detection dogs in the future."
I think machines far more sensitive than the dog's nose will eventually be invented.
I am not very selfish and I don't ruin America.
About the border, I am for a wall and greater use of national ID cards.
Why don't we have a wall? It is financially doable and practical, but we don't want the negative connotation of a police state since we love freedom
Same for national ID.
We want greater legal flow and trade across the southern border.
I have already said that currently drug detection and SAR are the two useful canine jobs.
I think machines far more sensitive than the dog's nose will eventually be invented.
I am not very selfish and I don't ruin America.
About the border, I am for a wall and greater use of national ID cards.
Why don't we have a wall? It is financially doable and practical, but we don't want the negative connotation of a police state since we love freedom
Same for national ID.
We want greater legal flow and trade across the southern border.
I have already said that currently drug detection and SAR are the two useful canine jobs.
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
"Dogs are definitely needed for drug detection, bomb detection, SAR, therapy, apprehending criminals, etc. I don't see how they could ever be replaced! In fact, I think we need them now more than ever"
Well. what if I say that human beings are more intelligent than dogs so that that are better at bomb detection.
Same for apprehending criminals. Cops with guns are better than dogs at apprehending criminals.
Dogs are not really needed for the above unless you think that a dogs life is worth less than a human life.
I think so, but I don't think the dog is happier doing bomb detection and apprehending criminals than playing with me.
My point is really don't be so righteous about the cause of a working dog. At the end it is the dogs presumed expendibility that make its work useful.
As I have said, drug detection and SAR works are two of few areas where a dog is humanely useful, without much species elitism.
Well. what if I say that human beings are more intelligent than dogs so that that are better at bomb detection.
Same for apprehending criminals. Cops with guns are better than dogs at apprehending criminals.
Dogs are not really needed for the above unless you think that a dogs life is worth less than a human life.
I think so, but I don't think the dog is happier doing bomb detection and apprehending criminals than playing with me.
My point is really don't be so righteous about the cause of a working dog. At the end it is the dogs presumed expendibility that make its work useful.
As I have said, drug detection and SAR works are two of few areas where a dog is humanely useful, without much species elitism.
by Gustav on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
Everybody does not think that way or breed GS for pets. If a good GS was given the choice of working as police dog or being a Pet the choice wouldn't be close. It is man that has turned this breed into a pet. Thousands of German Shepherds are working today in LE, SAR, Sport, etc, most of these are pets or capable of being pets also. They don't have to be exclusive. A good GS WANTS to be active and once allowed to go that route on a consistent basis would leave the couch in a heartbeat. Maybe not many of the breed today, that are bred for the couch, but a well bred GS can do the couch or the work depending on it being fortunate enough to have the chance. So if they are capable of adjusting to both, why would people breed this noble ability out, to cater to our vanity and slothfulness. Everybody is entitled to their approach, but fortunately there are people who do care and produce the authentic product.
by ggturner on 13 October 2011 - 22:10
What advantages do police dogs have over human police?
Answered by Discovery Channel
by ggturner on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
Answer:
Dogs have a fantastic sense of smell that is about 50 times better than that of humans. Using their powerful noses, police dogs can track criminals, locate drugs, find weapons and detect bombs. In the same situations, human police would have to use their eyes and search large areas. Plus, dogs can separate smells, which means even if there are a whole bunch of scents mixed together, they can pick out and follow just one. Another advantage police dogs have over their human partners is intimidation. Criminals get scared when a police dog growls at them because they know they can't reason with a dog, and they're more likely to go quietly with law enforcement officers when a police dog is present. Moreover, if there is a need to fight with a criminal, dogs are superior to humans. They're faster and stronger, and their powerful jaws can hold a suspect until help arrives.
Source: http://curiosity.discovery.com/question/police-dog-advantages-human-police
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
"If a good GS was given the choice of working as police dog or being a Pet the choice wouldn't be close. It is man that has turned this breed into a pet."
Does it prefer work, being shot at, over playing with me in my yard? You think so, really? This is a totally absurd supposition.
Even cops prefer not being shot at, that is why there are police dogs, for the most part.
Most cops work for pay with some job satisfaction. Also, many women like men in LE.
Does it prefer work, being shot at, over playing with me in my yard? You think so, really? This is a totally absurd supposition.
Even cops prefer not being shot at, that is why there are police dogs, for the most part.
Most cops work for pay with some job satisfaction. Also, many women like men in LE.
by beetree on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
Well, I think we could reword that question for the GSD. How about asking him, do you want to spend all your time in a kennel and let out when you're needed for some specialized work, or do you want to be an integral part of living, active, family, 24/7?
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
"How about asking him, do you want to spend all your time in a kennel and let out when you're needed for some specialized work, or do you want to be an integral part of living, active, family, 24/7?
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Why would one associate being a pet and staying in a kennel?
My dogs trot about 8-9 miles a week next to me, play in the yard, go thru obstacles, just have fun. She is also very intimidatingly protective.
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Why would one associate being a pet and staying in a kennel?
My dogs trot about 8-9 miles a week next to me, play in the yard, go thru obstacles, just have fun. She is also very intimidatingly protective.
by Gustav on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
Police dogs are shot at every day like you play with your dogs every day....Right!!!! That's so asinine that it doesn't even deserve a response. Most police and police dogs are never shot at once in their career. I can't deal with ignorance....Take care!
by HighDesertGSD on 13 October 2011 - 23:10
"Dogs have a fantastic sense of smell that is about 50 times better than that of humans.
I won't be surprised if machines that can be even better and economical will be invented.
At present, drug detection remains a useful canine job, very few.
I won't be surprised if machines that can be even better and economical will be invented.
At present, drug detection remains a useful canine job, very few.
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