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by Judy P on 02 February 2012 - 21:02
My first Mal would not have bitten a piss ant. She would have run and hid behind me and probably pushed me forward to protect her. My first GSD - an Amer SL would also have hid behind me. Now my second GSD a WL girl who was a rescue does have some prey drive, she has gone after an intruder. Now Quando has had extensive training as a PPD, he WILL bite without a sleeve or other equipment. He has protected me in a real life situation and from his reactions when someone gets to close to the car only a damned fool would try to get in. I honestly feel he would do what it takes but as a back uo I am also prepared to protect myself.
by destiny4u on 02 February 2012 - 21:02
what does a dogs ball drive have to do with its ability to protect without training? how on earth are they related?
by GSDPACK on 02 February 2012 - 21:02
The last time my dog tried to "protect me" from a confused drunk neighbor, I almost ended up in a court.
He somehow accidentally (drunk) tried to climb through my window (ass first) and my dog decided to take a chunk out. Not a happy scenario.
Before that, my roommate took home a "new friend" from a bar and that moron walked into my room thinking it is a bathroom and Orin full on bit him in the thigh, he smashed the 7 month old dog with the door and he let go (I guess I would too)
I was lucky, from then on, I am the protector, my dogs need to bark only before I really get into trouble with them.
But I have had two males that would.... My female? I hope I will never have to find out.
He somehow accidentally (drunk) tried to climb through my window (ass first) and my dog decided to take a chunk out. Not a happy scenario.
Before that, my roommate took home a "new friend" from a bar and that moron walked into my room thinking it is a bathroom and Orin full on bit him in the thigh, he smashed the 7 month old dog with the door and he let go (I guess I would too)
I was lucky, from then on, I am the protector, my dogs need to bark only before I really get into trouble with them.
But I have had two males that would.... My female? I hope I will never have to find out.
by destiny4u on 02 February 2012 - 21:02
gsd pack i saw some younger dogs in your training videos they really look like they would bite for real seem to have a lot of civil aggression? i dont know if they are yours or not but wow lol very nice
a pp trainer told me the thing with a good civil dog to work on is the out command because getting a good dog to bite is the easy part. A lot of breeds though now have been watered down it is very hard to find that even.
a pp trainer told me the thing with a good civil dog to work on is the out command because getting a good dog to bite is the easy part. A lot of breeds though now have been watered down it is very hard to find that even.
by Sunsilver on 02 February 2012 - 22:02
Jackie, LMBO! That is TOO funny!
The gal in my sig was not trained in protection, but she WOULD protect. We had a guy come delivering flyers to our home when she was tied outside. Yes, I know, bad move, but it was very early in the morning, and we weren't expecting anyone. He cut across our lawn from the neighbours, and therefore didn't see her until it was too late. If he hadn't been wearing a leather jacket, she might have done more than just bruise his arm.
He barely spoke English, and might have been an illegal immigrant, so there were no police involved.
She would also protect the car. One day, I let her out of the car so someone could admire her, and give her treats. When I put her back in the car, they went to pat her to say 'goodbye', and she bared her teeth and growled. Nobody was going to steal our car when she was inside!
Yet, when I asked someone to move my car out of the driveway so the ambulance could take one of my patients to the hospital (forgetting she was inside!) she seemed to know it was an emergency, and allowed a total stranger to get behind the wheel and back the car up!
She also protected my husband from a dog that was trying to attack him:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=143793&pagen=5#168471
I have no idea how she was bred, as she was a stray my landlady and good friend picked up off the street; and her structure was nothing to write home about, but she lived to the ripe old age of 14 1/2. I still miss her!
The gal in my sig was not trained in protection, but she WOULD protect. We had a guy come delivering flyers to our home when she was tied outside. Yes, I know, bad move, but it was very early in the morning, and we weren't expecting anyone. He cut across our lawn from the neighbours, and therefore didn't see her until it was too late. If he hadn't been wearing a leather jacket, she might have done more than just bruise his arm.
He barely spoke English, and might have been an illegal immigrant, so there were no police involved.
She would also protect the car. One day, I let her out of the car so someone could admire her, and give her treats. When I put her back in the car, they went to pat her to say 'goodbye', and she bared her teeth and growled. Nobody was going to steal our car when she was inside!
Yet, when I asked someone to move my car out of the driveway so the ambulance could take one of my patients to the hospital (forgetting she was inside!) she seemed to know it was an emergency, and allowed a total stranger to get behind the wheel and back the car up!
She also protected my husband from a dog that was trying to attack him:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=143793&pagen=5#168471
I have no idea how she was bred, as she was a stray my landlady and good friend picked up off the street; and her structure was nothing to write home about, but she lived to the ripe old age of 14 1/2. I still miss her!
by YogieBear on 02 February 2012 - 22:02
That video was stupid............... The "trained" dogs.......lol were just biting a sleeve.......The agitator didnt even attack the girl like he did with the "non trained" dogs.................. give me a break................
by destiny4u on 02 February 2012 - 23:02
my dog is very green and has bitten down on hidden sleeves during testing, shes had a bit training though so i mean i dont know if she counts but i mean the training isnt enough, id like to train much more with her because she likes it.She will turn on with a command and target soemone who is passive (id never do it). But if someone threatens her she will act on her own.She is a happy safe dog to take out in public and to the vets in general though. She wont show that side of her unless you tell her to or if someone doesnt know how to act.
by Slamdunc on 02 February 2012 - 23:02
Destiny,
Hidden sleeves are equipment too after the first time they are used. To do it correctly you need to constantly change the hidden sleeve material. Any jute material, bite suit or sleeve type material will be recognized by the dog almost immediately after one session, even hidden under clothing.
Hidden sleeves are equipment too after the first time they are used. To do it correctly you need to constantly change the hidden sleeve material. Any jute material, bite suit or sleeve type material will be recognized by the dog almost immediately after one session, even hidden under clothing.
by destiny4u on 02 February 2012 - 23:02
thanks for telling me slam they only used it for testing though dog is so green
so the first time the dog doesnt know it tho?
so the first time the dog doesnt know it tho?
by Slamdunc on 02 February 2012 - 23:02
If it is new, never been used the dog may not realize it is there. If it is jute, or lined like a bite suit or sleeve construction the dog may smell it and recognize it even the first time. We use other materials, not commonly used for dog training.
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