This is a placeholder text
Group text
by guddu on 03 March 2012 - 00:03
by DDRCzechFan on 03 March 2012 - 00:03
I haven't registered a dog for a while, so I'm not sure what AKC's current policies are; however, if you were ever looking into breeding/showing etc... you'd need full registration, and assuming the breeder did register that litter, in order to get full reg, I believe you need the three digit code in the little box for Full AKC Reg. on the application the breeder was OBLIGATED to give to you.
I went through something similar to your situation (not with a GSD, but a Golden Retriever a few years back) and the breeder, like yours, didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Like you, I contacted AKC and despite the BREEDER being the one in the wrong, they refused to honor full registration for my bitch. Man did it make me angry, a champion sired bitch, excellent conformation and hips prelim'd (not by OFA) Good to Excellent - I was so angry. But, I had a very nice, expensive Show quality pet. It was what it was, I spayed her, kept her and enjoyed her for what she was, a great dog.
BUT, it doesn't make it okay. Sadly, AKC was NOT looking to help the buyers a few years back, when I dealt with the situation, but I hope now-a-days they trust that not all breeders are as trustworthy as they could/should be and hopefully see this situation enough that they'll not only help you, but help you to your satisfaction.
You've already been burned by the breeder, it'd really 'suck' to find further damage from the AKC.
Good luck!
by aceofspades on 03 March 2012 - 01:03
by DenWolf on 03 March 2012 - 02:03
Then YOU can register your puppy ONLINE through AKC's website right away.
Email/phone them and ask them for the AKC LITTER NUMBER of your puppy, the PIN number (that is printed on the lower right half of the application), and the three digit code that is printed in the box to the left side of the PIN number.
Ask them to please send you the application by snail mail as well.
If you had the LITTER NUMBER, you could have at least entered your dog in AKC shows/events.
They should have at least emailed you that right after they received the paperwork from AKC...
An unregistered dog can be trialed.. but it shows up as "mixed breed" when you don't have registration papers.
by aceofspades on 03 March 2012 - 02:03
by Bhaugh on 03 March 2012 - 02:03
Other than giving him/her immunity, your not doing yourself any favors by not posting his/her name. Why protect someone who cheated you? If you still feel that you need to protect this person (however for the life of me I cant understand why) then go to the club where he trains and confront him. I'm guessing that for whatever reason he couldnt register one of the dogs to your pup and even though he "promised" papers he couldnt produce them so instead of doing the RIGHT THING, he chooses the wrong thing and is avoiding you. Or take him to court and ask the court to reimburse you for a registered dog since you wont be registering your dog through him. There is more than one way to make (what seems like because I dont know the entire story here) a breeder stand up and do the right thing.
by CMills on 03 March 2012 - 02:03
If I were you, and he claims he has "papers in hand" I'd ask the breeder to scan/forward the papers he supposedly has in hand, to show proof that he has the papers. There's NO reason they shouldn't be able to at least do that for you, and if they're telling you the truth they should have NO problems scanning/forwarding you the pups papers that they claim they have in hand! I'd want proof they have them.
by aceofspades on 03 March 2012 - 02:03
Yes, this will happen one time, not two. I know better now. If it doesn't work out then I have a pretty girl with a great pedigree and I have to be okay with that and chalk it up as a lesson learned. I don't love her any less because I don't have her papers. I am just disappointed that I won't be able to use her as I had intended. Such is life. I have to be okay with it.
I haven't shared the breeders name, however there is a fairly good paper trail. I haven't posted much here but I did post my girl's pedigree just after I picked her up in Aug 2010....many have had no problem finding the information.
As I also said, I am probably not entierly innocent as I have not been diligent in my pursiut of the breeder when I didn't recieve the paperwork. Aside from an unanswered email every few months (so probably about 7 emails over the course of the last 15 months) and a few unanswered phone calls, I haven't been persistent. For this reason I am not ready to name and shame. I believe in the good in people and just as I haven't been as persistent as I should have been, perhaps he has reasons as well (though I can't think of them off hand, especially since he has whelped two litters since mine). I tend to try to believe in the good in people. He is not a stranger to Sch or to breeding, so I would like to think he wouldn't want to ruin a good reputation by trying to scam the buyers of one of his litters.
Now that I have a bit of information on the dam and sire, someone was kind enough to find their AKC numbers for me, I do have a jumping off point. I came to find out where I could go from here, and I have recieved some great suggestions. I plan to give it a bit more time and hope that I learn that the litter IS registered (I am confident that it is, call me naive if you might, but I have no reason to believe it wouldn't have been) and then I will go from there. If there comes a time that I find out I will not be getting registration papers, then I will decide how to proceed with publicly naming the breeder. At this point I am not ready to do that.
And feel free to sound like a bitch :o) I have thick skin.
by Blitzen on 03 March 2012 - 03:03
I imagine the breeder already knows about this thread, so you may hear something soon.
by beetree on 03 March 2012 - 03:03
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top