Refunds- yes or no and when and what if?? - Page 9

I'm confused......  Which is nothing new, LOL

You purchased insurance on the advice of your breeder and that was able to "go" with the pup when you returned him?  Is the condition covered or is there a waiting period?  That last question isn't important I was just curious.

Did the breeder buy the pup back?

Cat, have you lost your mind? There has been no breach. There is no contract because you didn't sign it and return it when I asked, after I mailed it to your house because I forgot to hand it to you when you were here. I couldn't care less about that, and said I would pay you for him anyway, because that's what I had to do to get him back. I will always buy a dog back if that's what it takes.  I had tried several times to get him back due to some disturbing information I was receiving from more than once source. I do not wish to humiliate you here, as I am not at all convinced you deserve it, personally, so please just stop threatening me and being dishonest about supposed "returns" with problems, (as I am aware of zero, and I talk to everyone I sold a dog to), have a little class, and cool your jets. This thread wasn't even all about you. I have breached no agreement. I will take care of him, then I will pay you, as we agreed a couple weeks ago. I never offered you any "returns"; the dog I offered you was mine only, and that was before certain information came to light.  I am shocked you are creating such a scene, given the circumstances. 

Here's my take on puppy buying. It's a crap shoot and I know it is. In the process of raising the puppy you get attached, or at least, I do. I've never taken up a contract's offer to return a dog, as I have always feared what would become of them. I'd prefer to home the dog myself, cut my losses, or keep them as a pet and also cut my losses.

I will say that in the event that I worked with a breeder who wanted to take back the dog, and pay THOUSANDS for surgery to make the dog happy and homeable, I'd keel over with happiness for the dog. And to refund me on top of it? Holy crap. Who does that? I wouldn't expect money back at all, actually, since I already stated I know puppies are a gamble. A replacement, maybe, but if they wanted to pay me back in lieu of that, I'd be pleasantly surprised and grateful.

However, knowing the expense that was being put into the dog, I would never feel the need to press for that money quickly, whether it was a verbal offer or a contract carved into marble. That is how appreciative I would be of the dog that was in my home, who I loved, getting the care they need. Dog first, my bank account later, if ever.

Now, I won't profess to know a damn thing about the situation here. The internet never tells the whole story. I can only offer what my thoughts and feelings would be based on what has been presented. I told myself I wouldn't offer insight into anyone's personal woes on this or any board anymore. I'm responding to a hypothetical "what if" that may or may not be the case here. My anti-drama disclaimer.

geez, this has gone on for 5 pages now and we still don't know the issue with the dog. Since you two principal parties have chosen to make this public, inquiring minds want to know.

Here is the conclusions I have come to so far:

1: from prerusing TH posts and the pride in the dog, it will take a bit of effort to convince me that the dog was neglected.

2: the only thing I can determine from the x-ray is that the elbow looked like a train wreck.

so, since you guys have chosen to make this public, what procedure was needed on the dog that cost $6500.

Rik

Edited...... Nevermind, I'm not going to get into this.

Wow to VonIsengard. I see you are trying very hard to use emotionalism to deny the refund of the returned item due to defect. I don't imagine you would be so accomodating should you want to return a defective appliance? Would you wait patiently for them to send it back to the mfg. and wait for them to repair it, before getting your money back?  (No where are you obligated to take a replacement.) For me it is like a bad haircut sometimes, when you get one, having the situation rectified by continued incompetence becomes mind-boggling. 

No, no you would not!  Why should TH be out money because they believed the sellers often touted Buy back guarantee? It seems to me, what they now are saying is, TH shouldn't have returned the dog, but instead threatened to neglect it so the buy back clause would motivate the IF NEEDED scenario. 

Now, that is just messed up, IMHO.

Uh...aren't there 2 different dogs, 2 different threads - the one Jenni started as a breeder followed by the one by T'Hunde as a buyer?

Work it out privately with the buyer. The dog in the xrays T'Hunde posted clearly has bilateral ununited anconeal process AKA elbow dysplasia. A genetic condition that can be inhertied from 2 normal dogs. It is not the result of over exercise, injury, abuse. it's in the genes. MAKE THE DEAL...............fix the dog.

Beetree,
Attacking VonIsengard for her post is a little much.
You're normally a bit better than this from the few times I read this forum anymore.
Frankly, it is the most sane and reasonable post in this thread.
What she wrote was simply her opinion, and I agree with it.
If you care about animals it makes sense. If you don't, and they are just a means to an end, it probably won't.
Jenni has said she will give T-Hunde her money back when she has the money.
If it doesn't happen there are legal remedies for it.
Equating a dog, especially one with a health issue, to an appliance is........well, I'll use your words,
"Now, that is just messed up, IMHO."

T-Hunde and Jenni,
Each of you felt good enough about the other to buy/sell a puppy from each other.
Remember that feeling and work it out between yourselves and leave it off the internet.
This is no place to resolve issues. It only creates more conflicts and the more you post, the worse it gets.

(P.S. For anyone that wants to post who created this thread or the other, you already have. They both did, so, I really don't give a shit!)

I rather thought I responded properly with my difference. It just seems any disagreement that won't play into the emotions is labeled as an attack. Coming from a retail management background, I still stand by my analogy. And that TH should have been refunded at the same time the dog was accepted for return. That is how it is done. Or should be. And I just love how breeders are always so broke at refund time. Each and every time.

I never said anything about refusing a refund. Don't put words in my mouth. I even stated I know nothing about the situation, just responding hypothetically. Second, a dog is not an appliance or a bad haircut. What a sad and horrifying comparison. Yes, emotions do play a role in my decisions because unlike a microwave, dogs have emotions, too. I, too, thought you were better than that.