Critique my dog please - Page 5

In my experience, yes Working line shepherds cannot handle the rigors of a simple daily jog that lasts 45-60 minutes daily. Not saying there aren't any that can't do it.  But for the most part this is a true assessment.  Jogging along in front of me is no small thing.  The pavement will wear a dog down quickly if they are not built properly to handle it.  Most showlines have big deep chests, with bigger lungs to pull air into the body which improves their ability to last longer periods of time in a trot.  They also tend to have thicker bones usually so they can handle the rigors of running on pavement.  This allows them to perform better than their working line counterparts in this activity.

WL is definitely not known for their endurance though.  Not sure where you came up with that idea.  They are all about quick spurts of obedience for the most part.  They are not made for long distance activities.

Yes fasteddiely I loved the angulation pic, which made me think of the really angulated SLs who look like they're taking a dump all the time haha. Really though wait until he's more like 14-16 months and practice stacking between now and then (I'm no expert at it, but it is hard to critique without it). By this time, he'll be evened out and not growth spurting. He's got great color. And as far as the SL/WL thing goes, I have one of both, and love them for different reasons. But to say a WL can't jog for an hour alongside a person is ridiculous. I've seen many who outshine my SL. And to say they can't do well in conformation is stupid, too. But by far the dumbest thing I've read is that WL are just for obedience. That's just hilarious.

LOL. Isn't that what the AD is for. ;)

Jeeze, what a bunch of Balogna.

macrowe1 you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. If you can get off the couch and take your working line jogging every day next week I would be curious to hear your feedback. But do be careful as it is very possible you will end up with a maimed animal.

I, on the other hand, am speaking with over 30 years of experience in jogging with dogs. It definitely isn't a trivial thing.
Getting back to the OP, I hope you have found this information helpful and it gives you a better idea of what conformation is and why it is so important to the breed.  Too many working line folks just don’t take it serious enough and it is my hope that by sharing my findings it will help you in your own personal discovery of the breed.
 macrowe1 you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. If you can get off the couch and take your working line jogging every day next week I would be curious to hear your feedback. But do be careful as it is very possible you will end up with a maimed animal.

I, on the other hand, am speaking with over 30 years of experience in jogging with dogs. It definitely isn't a trivial thing.

The AD is a one time test not a daily activity.

Getting back to the OP, I hope you have found this information helpful and it gives you a better idea of what conformation is and why it is so important to the breed.  Too many working line folks just don’t take it serious enough and it is my hope that by sharing my findings it will help you in your own personal discovery of the breed.

Do you really think that if their endurance wasn't built up properly they would be able to do the AD?

The AD isn't really that hard my friend.

Maywood,

 How many working dog's have you run with in 30 years?

Not intending to hijack this thread or nothing but I guess I’m just in the mood to share today.

I’ve posted this before but it has been awhile since then so I suppose I will post it again.  I initially started with working line shepherds because I naively thought they would be better working dogs.  This is a common mistake most people make when they first come into the breed.  I did this for years using just working line dogs for my daily exercise program.  I found out quickly that they couldn’t handle it on a daily basis so I ended up getting a few more dogs so I could alternate the days I used them.  This worked out ok for a very long time.  It wasn’t until I got my first showline that I made this discovery.  Instead of having to have 4-5 dogs for my purposes I only needed one.  This is why I have no problem paying four times as much for the show line dog.  They are truly amazing animals for this common activity that everyone can do with their dogs.  It kills me when uninformed people ridicule them or take them for granted as if they are only trotting around a ring for an hour.  There is some serious working ability going on in that ring and it should not be taken lightly.

Don’t get me wrong.  As I have said before, I do respect the working line dogs and what they can do in the sport of Schutzhund, Police work, etc.  I even have one in my own kennel as she is the oldest of my dogs.  But for my daily purposes, my own experience has shown me the show line shepherds are the best trotters on the planet bar none.  No other breed of dog even comes close.

maywood, you just made von stephanitz a proud man
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