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by melba on 29 September 2012 - 20:09
As long as the dog has drive, I am not concerned if it is aggressive with strangers as long as it is not based in fear. We have a few with DCSO JUST
like that. It is not a problem for an officer if they know what to expect and this is not their first K9. I would take a hard A@@ dog that had phenomenal
drives. You are right though, sometimes there just is no "fixing" things and liability IS a concern. These dogs should not go to just anyone, but there are
some that will work in a venue in which aggression is allowed and encouraged, so long as the other drives are intact.
Melissa
like that. It is not a problem for an officer if they know what to expect and this is not their first K9. I would take a hard A@@ dog that had phenomenal
drives. You are right though, sometimes there just is no "fixing" things and liability IS a concern. These dogs should not go to just anyone, but there are
some that will work in a venue in which aggression is allowed and encouraged, so long as the other drives are intact.
Melissa
by Abby Normal on 29 September 2012 - 22:09
Can I just make a suggestion on the sponsor side of things which is all I can do from the UK. Regardless of having the 501 c 3 status, I think it would be better if someone set up a personal paypal account - say you Marjorie, that sponsors can pay into. It's very easy, and people can make a payment just by using your paypal email address (that's how I donated towards Kaiser's vet treatment, it was easy). It is helpful if people outside of the USA want to donate. Any other way just eats up the donation in charges. The reason I say this is that people may only be able to donate small amounts here and there, and you may need a certain amount at any one time for a particular dog in a particular situation, and may not have a sponsor that can pay the whole amount needed directly to the shelter. If you have an account that all monies accumulate in, you have the means and access to the money that you need (hopefully) when you need it. I know it's not a 'regular' set up, but it's a trust issue, and I am sure that we all feel the same, we know the money is going to be used for saving the dogs.
As for a name for the rescue, well I don't think there is any doubt that you should dedicate it to Missie T in some way.
As for a name for the rescue, well I don't think there is any doubt that you should dedicate it to Missie T in some way.
by marjorie on 29 September 2012 - 23:09
I found out I can get money through paypal- didnt know I could till it was sent to me (I am just so computer savvy...NOT ;) )
| -- >As for a name for the rescue, well I don't think there is any doubt that you should dedicate it to Missie T in some way. |
| Thats very thoughtful of you to suggest that :) |
by vonissk on 30 September 2012 - 01:09
Melissa I understand what you are saying and I agree. I have dealt with agression and for me personally it's not a big problem. I know I am no big dog trainer and all that but because I do know the breed and have been around the block a time or two, I can handle it. I am thinking tho that the average adopter is not going to be a trainer or a K9 officer. They are going to be the average Joe. The average person that comes to my house is not a dog person. They may have dogs and love their dogs but I would regard them as just an average pet owner. Most people here are very afraid of GSDs and especially the sable ones as they regard them as "real police dogs" . And I am working as hard as I can to change that way of thinking. I know it sounds crazy but they also think a dog's place is in a back yard or on a chain and I am working hard to change that also and promote that I am not a crazy dog lady, that dogs were meant to be companions. That was my point.
by melba on 30 September 2012 - 01:09
Vonissk, I have quite the opposite experiences here. LOL I do understand that for most adopters, that type of dog will never be
suitable, BUT I have connections all over the country with PDs, officers and such and they would be more then happy to have this type of dog
working for them. I can easilty get these dogs adopted into PDs, probably just about as fast as they come in. Once Sarge gets here, I'll be
training him in tracking/trailing, article searches, drive work, obedience etc.. to get him ready for K9. I'm donating my training services
and should the handler need to come do some training with us, I am donating that too. If we can all agree on an adoption fee for K9s I
put into service, that will go back to Marjorie for pull fees, transport cost, vet care etc... for other dogs that are stuck in the shelters and
can't get out. Most of the people I know are LEO, and Schutzhund folks :) What can I say, GSD are my life LOL.
It doesn't sound crazy.. people here think the same way about dogs in the backyard or on a chain. Why have a dog if they can't be with you?
I know some of my dogs are kenneled (the girls would EAT each other!) but they don't just sit back there doing nothing. They work, train
and go out with me just about every day.
Melissa
suitable, BUT I have connections all over the country with PDs, officers and such and they would be more then happy to have this type of dog
working for them. I can easilty get these dogs adopted into PDs, probably just about as fast as they come in. Once Sarge gets here, I'll be
training him in tracking/trailing, article searches, drive work, obedience etc.. to get him ready for K9. I'm donating my training services
and should the handler need to come do some training with us, I am donating that too. If we can all agree on an adoption fee for K9s I
put into service, that will go back to Marjorie for pull fees, transport cost, vet care etc... for other dogs that are stuck in the shelters and
can't get out. Most of the people I know are LEO, and Schutzhund folks :) What can I say, GSD are my life LOL.
It doesn't sound crazy.. people here think the same way about dogs in the backyard or on a chain. Why have a dog if they can't be with you?
I know some of my dogs are kenneled (the girls would EAT each other!) but they don't just sit back there doing nothing. They work, train
and go out with me just about every day.
Melissa
by 3Shep2 on 30 September 2012 - 02:09
Would it really be that hard to designated the companion dogs from the working prospects and route them to the suitable foster/rescue/trainer?
by vonissk on 30 September 2012 - 03:09
Wow Melissa lucky you!!!! I know it would be like a breath of fresh air to be able to be around those kind of people pretty much all the time. I know you do talk the talk and walk the walk and I have a lot of respect and admiration for you.
Actually I had forgotten but I do know a department looking for a dog. He had called me talking about a puppy. We do have a grown dog for sale and I referred him to my mentor--not sure what happened but the dog is still with her. Anyway when I talked to him I know he was interested in a dog for drug and SAR work. If you would like to contact him I would be glad to PM you his phone #s, etc. I'm not sure about the money end of the deal. I had priced Scooby to him at 1800 and he didn't seem to have a problem with that.
The GSDs are my life too. I know I am on a way different leval of things than you but I have hung with them a long time getting better dogs and learning all I can about them--they have really saved my life...I agree with you in what is the point if they can't be your companions. I too have 2 bitches that mix it up occasionally. I want to rehome the one but right now I am working on getting her over the last mixup they got into. We got the drains out Thursday but she still has a ways to go. So I play musical crates and I have a dog room that one or the other stays in.
3Shep2 I think that is an excellent idea. I have no qualms with keeping a high drive working dog that is already going somewhere. But my idea of fostering is not only keeping the dog safe, but also basic stuff, like house manners, housebreaking, socializing, car rides, etc. getting the dog ready to fo into a home................
Actually I had forgotten but I do know a department looking for a dog. He had called me talking about a puppy. We do have a grown dog for sale and I referred him to my mentor--not sure what happened but the dog is still with her. Anyway when I talked to him I know he was interested in a dog for drug and SAR work. If you would like to contact him I would be glad to PM you his phone #s, etc. I'm not sure about the money end of the deal. I had priced Scooby to him at 1800 and he didn't seem to have a problem with that.
The GSDs are my life too. I know I am on a way different leval of things than you but I have hung with them a long time getting better dogs and learning all I can about them--they have really saved my life...I agree with you in what is the point if they can't be your companions. I too have 2 bitches that mix it up occasionally. I want to rehome the one but right now I am working on getting her over the last mixup they got into. We got the drains out Thursday but she still has a ways to go. So I play musical crates and I have a dog room that one or the other stays in.
3Shep2 I think that is an excellent idea. I have no qualms with keeping a high drive working dog that is already going somewhere. But my idea of fostering is not only keeping the dog safe, but also basic stuff, like house manners, housebreaking, socializing, car rides, etc. getting the dog ready to fo into a home................
by fawndallas on 30 September 2012 - 13:09
From my perspective, what I offer does not generally come with "only if my expenses can be repaid.". My offer for transport is that, no expectation to be repaid. For fostering, the only think I ask is for help with any vet bills that are above spay/neuter and 1 shot round. ------------ As for taking an aggressive dog, I am out of my league there. I can transport them unless they try to eat me...... Well, then chances are I saw that when I tried to pick them up and have already notified that I cannot get them. ----------- as for while they are at my home, they will not have access to other people or my dogs. Generally this type of short term foster is during the quarantine period anyway.
by fawndallas on 30 September 2012 - 13:09
I understood that this network was for dogs going to an established rescue that has been confirmed. If this is not the case, I really can't pick up the dog. Not to say I would not love to, but I know me. I will keep the dog and I am already "1 paw away from being the crazy dog lady (my friends already think I am nuts.).
by 3Shep2 on 30 September 2012 - 14:09
While some Rescues will board, other will state that they are limited by available foster homes . . . . .
It's been my aspiration to be able to pull and train shelter canines for a life as a service dog or working K9, but I lack the facilities and experience in many areas but more so, the funding to accomplish it.
As far as my neighbors-if I'm not training or breeding then I must be nuts for having so many dogs (6) but I have little regards for their opinions-my dogs are well care for, loved, supervised and kept from wandering the countryside-which is something my neighbors can not stated and I am known as "the doglady".
I will not have trouble transporting-wish I could foster, but 6 is my financial limit-that 7th one pushes me over.
It's been my aspiration to be able to pull and train shelter canines for a life as a service dog or working K9, but I lack the facilities and experience in many areas but more so, the funding to accomplish it.
As far as my neighbors-if I'm not training or breeding then I must be nuts for having so many dogs (6) but I have little regards for their opinions-my dogs are well care for, loved, supervised and kept from wandering the countryside-which is something my neighbors can not stated and I am known as "the doglady".
I will not have trouble transporting-wish I could foster, but 6 is my financial limit-that 7th one pushes me over.
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