Please show me your straight backed GSL stacked and in motion!! - Page 5

The young AMSL puppy I showed you guys before doing the bitework? Here he is at 19 months old taking BOB at Abiliene TX last weekend. He now has almost all his rally titles, a BH and a CD. He is working on his IPO right now. My "nephew" Bomber and I love him so cause IMO he is the total dog.

Smiley I come over here every now and again and I read your posts and I swear I don't know what you are looking for. There are many many good dogs ot there.................

To be honest, when I see statements like "straight back" and "old fashion" I usually just keep scrolling as those are terms that "backyard breeder" types use to sell their dogs.  No responsible legitimate breeder will use those terms about their dogs.  "Straight back" drives me nuts as it is so misleading.  What people call a 'straight back' has nothing to do with the dogs back at all!  So to me, those terms usually indicate a topic that usually does not have much real information or valid discussion involved.  

Anyways, the pics you posted are rather typical.  I do not see anything different or special about them?  I see a lot of German Show line dogs (and working line dogs) who look similar.  I suspect you are looking in the wrong places if they are so rare in your mind?  

FWIW and yes I know I am in the minority with most people here I am sure, but UKC CH means zero to me.  When I see some of the dogs advertised online with UKC CH or UKC Grand CH... well to me, it is rather meaningless.  Not even commenting on the dogs posted as I do not know them or anything about them.  

 

So it's not just me.   

I think the UKC shows do have some limited value. It is dog and owner/handler friendly and they have a chance to place other than last as with AKC

Dog and handler are doing something together and having fun

Dog learns how to behave in public around other dogs and people thus limiting the chance of a dog who is a biter making a bad name for the breed

Smiley I see dogs like you have pictured all over so don't know what you are looking for if you can't find them.

Yes there are dogs with a ROACHED back that is not from they way they are stacked that I don't like but it has been shown and proven many times with pictures that a dog standing square will have a flat back and one stacked may be sloped.

Me I want the withers higher than the main back not level with and that way achieve the slope. One must when looking at a picture of a dog that they have not posed the dog so that his front feet are on higher ground to get that look of the withers higher.

Wow....shocked everyone sees these type of dogs all over as I haven't seen one.

Where am Iooking...SV Conformation shows, Sieger shows, breeders,  AKC Specialty and All-Breed shows and trials, UKC shows, 4 IPO training fields, and tracking clinics. And I haven't seen one dog with this type and unlike most of the people who sit home and just post I actually am showing, trialing, and working my dog in multiple venues and exposed to lots of German shepherds. 

What I see is a clear separation of type. I see ASL type, Working line type, and germanshowline type. What I don't see is the look of the dogs I posted.

And, I'm not going to be bullied by people here and just give in.if you all see them very where than post them for all to see? That shouldn't be too hard for people since they are, apparently, everywhere.

my experience is there is clear separation of type and specialization. I am looking for the classic German shepherd that is not roached; does not have excessive angulation; is not weedy like a Mal; not thick like a 100 pound Brickhouse; has a typey head and is healthy, mentally stable, and athletic.

i also disagree with the UKC comments. UKC evaluates German shepherds from a working dog perspective and modified their standard to prevent excessive angulation. It is just another tool to help breeders evaluate their dogs. I don't think much of a lot of SG and V dogs but I don't throw the baby out with the bath water. It's just one more piece to evaluate a dog....

Smiley I just do not know what you are looking for You show pictures of what you like which, sorry, for me look just like what I see all over

If you found those then there must be more where those are. If you see a dog that had UKC titles that you like then I would scour those shows and those who advertise those accomplishments etc.

Sorry I can not be of help to you Good luck in your search.

the SA bred one sure has been to shows with me in SA. There`s a handful of judges here who place movement above all, a slight cow hock will ensure ur dog cant get #1 From my experience the so called `` straight back" gsd just have a shorter actually steeper croup. they do in general a lot better in coming and going than ur usual SL gsd

UKC IMO is just a starting place-- other than that it holds very very little merit to me. Any dog that has 4 legs, registration papers and can walk will get a UKC CH eventually. I know cause I have seen them and I will stick to that.

BTW the dog, Bomber, I posted has never been to a UKC show in his life. He is totally AKC pointed. I*n fact out of a 6 puppy litter, 4 are AKC pointed, and are all doing bitework. Some have rally titles and one other bitch has her BH.

And GSD 2727 I definately agree about old fashioned and straight backed. When I see something like that advertised I read no further. A GSD is not supposed to have a straight back to start with--they have to have some angulation to make their gait effective. Even the HOT girl with Bomber above, Lana, said she wished she had never stacked him on that box because it made him look like he had no angulation. He does and not all slung out--just like it should be.

And if you're not finding the right dogs then you're not looking in the right places is all I can say. They are out there. I posted one, I have one in my house right now and the young man I am working with has a very nice coated young male. And some of you who know me know I don't care for coats, but this boy has so much more going on. Some of the reason I rarely post anymore, tho I do come by and read, is bewcause I am busy with my husband and the dogs and my friend and his dogs.

 

here is a few of my dogs, just hanging out, with eachother, standing around naturally.

All straight backed.

(i am going to try to put a few more pics of the same dogs, stanging naturally, in different footing, with different degrees of slope, but the back itself, is still straight)