KENNEL CLUB SUSPEND ALLOCATION OF GSD CC's for 2012 - Page 25

Why on earth would anyone want to stay with the KC what the hell have they ever done for you apart from take your money Aileen is 100% correct in this
WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO CUT AND RUN NOW – DON’T LET THEM BULLDOZE/BULLY/BLACKMAIL OR SHAFT US THIS TIME – MAKE THE BREAK FOR THE SAKE OF OUR WONDERFUL BREED.  I say to all GSD enthusiasts YOUR BREED NEEDS YOU. stand up and be counted.
Aileen you have put forward an excellent post which should be looked into by all GSD clubs and hopefully the GSD partnership and maybe just maybe they will see that we do not need the money grabbing KC
jim h

Jaymsie51........... It is my right to want to stay with the KC, it is not your right to question my reasons. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and be respected for it. My original query stands If the proposal, as stated above were to be put into action, is this open just to the German side or everyone. I have the German type but still want to be affiliated with the Kennel Club, enter Kennel Club ran shows and register my puppies with them. How would this work. Would it mean that ALL German stuff no longer be able to register with the KC or is it a personal choice? I fear that 'jerk' and 'knee' come into mind and also 'cutting ones nose off!" Maybe if the double handling was stopped immediately and a copy of ALL the health tests including facts and figues are sent in to the Kennel Club, there may be room for movement. The Double handling can be stopped at All Breed shows, this is an intelligent breed which can pull without being shouted at to do so. We train ours this way so we can show at All breeds shows without causing a distruption to other rings. I think we have to remember that this is Britain and we are entering shows held under Kennel Club rules and regs, so we should abide by these rules. I can see why other breeds do not like us, to be honest we do have a 'we should be treated differently from you' attitude going on!

Please visit the Dog World Website and read its front page article giving us full support as being victimised by the
KC and featuring the comments of BC Chairman and member of the GSD Partnership Mr John Cullen.
Then please note the 'comments' already written there are from all and sundry but anyone other than a GSD Supporter.
http://www.dogworld.co.uk/News/32-gsd#1
What you all have to realise is that with our Double Handling our exhibitors have to many in other breeds come across
as irresponsible, wreckless, holigans respecting nothing or nobody with our 'We will do what we darn well like attitude, irrespective of the danger or inconvenience to others, not to mention the unfairness it creates to some other exhibitors in the class who dont have the same Double Handling power".  Sorry folks, this might not fit in with what you want to hear but only a totally wreckless, irresponsible , holigan will try to deny these facts.

Anyone who really knows me, knows I am not a KC fan and all of us are guilty of Double Handling but theres Double Handling and then theres discreet attracting and there is a difference. As much as I believe the KC were completely out of order with their recent letter, especially its timing but if you had a club with rules and a set of people who came to it who behaved like naughty children all the time and despite how many warnings they still continued to behave like holigans, wouldnt you want to do something about it? 

As for Roach backs, I wish people who see these roach backs would understand just exactly how a dog can be posed in different stance and even as was pointed out earlier in this thread the way some people view a roach means that even the best puppy dog on the UK site could be viewed to having a roach back. Furthermore, the KC letter was about Health and Welfare, this is the reason (according to the KC that they changed the wording of some standards ealier this year) would someone please provide me with EVIDENCE as to how a curved back constitutes an UNHEALTHY dog? In other words what evidence have they got that a Roach is in any way detrimental to a dogs health and if they think this why have they not then changed the standards for Greyhounds , Afghans, Whippets, Bedlington Terriers (need I go on?).

NO DOG IS PERFECT, NO DOG EXACTLY FITS THE STANDARD, ALL DOGS HAVE FAULTS, BUT ALL DOGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY UNHEALTHY, ESPECIALLY NOT THOSE BRED BY GSD PEOPLE WITH ALL THEIR BREED SURVEY HEALTH CHECKS IN PLACE. THEY ARE FAR HEALTHIER THAN THE ONES THE KC ARE HAPPY TO REGISTER AS LONG AS IT HAS (as JIM H so brilliantly put it) A PULSE. !! 

I can see you have put a Great Deal of time and thought into your plan Aileen and commend you for it and far be it from me to rain on your parade but if I could just tug a little on your reigns and suggest that before you all go rushing to support a KC split,  remember the showing fraternity are but a small section of the GSD Community and are you certain that WHERE YOU LEAD, ALL WILL FOLLOW??!! You only have to look to those in our midst that are more than happy to frequent the GENERAL CHAMP SHOWS UNDER ALL ROUNDERS, who they do VERY WELL UNDER THANKYOU !! Are you sure Aileen the likes of these will be behind you when you hold up your banner and walk to the Split Door? I am happy whichever way we are forced to go, but for the sake of our breed PLEASE ALL OF YOU THINK BEFORE YOU JUMP TO QUICKLY THROUGH WHAT COULD TURN OUT TO BE THE WRONG DOOR. Please think also, that this may be precisely what some want us to do? I'm a little stubborn that way, not too sure I want to roll over that easily to give someone else exactly what they want. Dont want to get into b

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Though definately dont want to get into bed with them either Sophie, sorry.   Still love you though..l
 
All the best
Sue

Sueb I personally don't want to get into bed so too speak BUT we may be forced to do so. As you So rightly said if we had a club of people acting like naughty children who totally ignored all the rules you would simply give them an ASBO. This is just what the KC have now done in their own fashion.  As I said before we have had others chipping away at the KC going on about those Germanic types & how bad they behave - well it is also these pople that now are feeling the hardship as well.
So if you want to rock the boat make sure you are wearing a lifebelt! Other wise you may well go down with the ship  
So if we are off to hell and so are they!  hence my call for NO SPLIT IN THE BREED.  As Joyce has said you sometimes are better with the devil you know than the one you don't.

We actually may get to consider one another's (omg I'm off in a fanasty world again) point of view & IF we have the health & well being of our breed then surely we should come together and talk. Each may not like what the other has to say but if it is constructive criticism and not an all out attack then the dogs will benefit.  So my pray each night is ' I try to be good for I know that I should that's my prayer at the end of the day'  and the remaining part of my pray is that the proposal put before the Breed Council from West Yorkshire re- the Accredited Breeder scheme does hit the right mark at the KC. This is the best thing that has so far been put forward. It's not Alice in wonderland.  Sometimes sitting and waiting can be the worst part BUT it should be done.
I just find it so disgracefull that we have been penalised and not the Pekingese who are unable to breath correctly - why were their tickets not stopped?

I say that we just split away from the kennel club. One reason is below:

Here is a proper german shepherd, as it should be:


Below is what the kennel club has changed the german shephrd to with it's new standard, and what they want to get hold of:
 



They are trying to get us to this:


Would you in 2010, like to think of a gsd, and see this? No hip scores, weak back, over angulated.
Below is a puppy. Poeple think of gsd puppies, as cute, well when you see this, you will feel, disgraced at the kennel club:

Below is an american german shepherd gaiting:

Would you wish for your german shepherd to walk and run like this? Not able to jump, or run fast, or do most things a pet dog would want to do?

I SAY SPLIT AWAY